Game Freeze on F-16 Eng Start

[armchairGman]

Hello

This is my first time posting a bug report, my apologies if I don't post/upload something correctly.

 

DCS Open Beta 2.5.5.41371, Win10 64, Radeon HD7800, 36GB RAM 1TB HDD. *Aircraft is in cold start condition*

 

- Game will freeze when I move throttle to idle (Rshift+Home) at %20rpms. No CTD or "ED" home screen appears.

 

- This freeze takes place in simple training missions I've created for myself.

 

- Freeze happens on all three maps with same mission parameters.

 

- Before starting engine or touching any controls in aircraft I hear a "ghost engine" in background. This mission has no other aircraft or assets added, not sure what I'm hearing.

 

- This "ghost engine" sound begins to wind down when I move power switch to batt from off position.

 

- I have been unable to get a track file. I am attaching a copy of the last log. Please let me know how to get other info that might be needed.

 

Thanks everyone

F16 ENG SRT Freeze 12.26.19.txt

[Deano87]

Tried a DCS Repair?

 

If not go start > Eagle Dynamics > Repair DCS.

[BIGNEWY]

Hi

 

please ensure windows is up to date, and all device drivers.

 

See my advice in my signature below for crash it may help.

 

Could you attach the mission you made, I would like to try and reproduce.

 

thank you

[armchairGman]

I did the repair step as recommended. I was able to open the mission and start the aircraft...but..

 

I realized the loadout I selected was "empty" in the ME. The loadout I had been using was one I created for "CAP". x2 AIM9x on wingtips, x4 120C's, and 3 fuel tanks.

 

When I reloaded the mission with this loadout I had the exact same freeze condition as before. Not sure if the loadout I created is related.

 

 

@BIGNEWY

I'm newish to DCS world (on and off for several years, f16 is first non FC3 module). All relevant drivers and Win10 are up-to-date. I've rechecked my security settings in Win10 and Norton to see if they were causing any problems, didn't find any issues there.

 

I think I can set DCS to record every SP mission instead of just MP missions. I'm going to try that and upload if possible. I can't get out of the mission after it freezes to "click" save track. Also going to review your advice in signature.

 

I tried to upload my TacView file of the freeze (ive got several now) but the forum didn't seem to allow it. Not sure if it would help anyway.

 

Thanks again both for your help. I report back after the above steps

 

 

*Update*

I wasn't able to figure out how to force a track recording of my freeze. I did make a track of the mission start. The only action I take is to move the power switch to "batt" to hopefully record the ghost engine noise in the background. The freeze would ocure when I move power to "main", click start #2, then at %20 rpm Rshift+home for throttle idle = freeze.

 

Still not sure if this is something I'm causing.

 

Also tried auto start Rwin+Home and the freeze still happens.

 

Thanks again.

F16 Radar Training Beta.miz

Hannibal F16 Eng Srt Freeze12.26.19.trk

Edited December 26, 2019 by armchairGman
Update

[Deano87]

Post the mission here and I’ll give it a try and see if I get the same issue.

[armchairGman]

Hi Dean

I attached them to my second post, thanks for your help!

 

- Not sure why, but when I only use the standard loadouts available or use the Rearm/refuel in mission I don't get any issues. Tried it several time and the loadout I created in the ME seems to be the consistent factor during a game crash.

 

- Not sure if this is a F-16 bug or something I somehow did. I've created several loadouts in the ME before for other A/C and never ran into this...….

[BIGNEWY]

Hi

 

I am unable to reproduce using the provided track or mission.

 

It is likely any manual edits are creating the problem, what was the loadout edit you made?

 

If you have a unofficial mods or edits please remove them and run a cleanup and repair or verify for steam users.

 

I have a guide below in my signature.

 

thank you

[armchairGman]

@BIGNEWY

 

No mods, clean up and repair was done via your signature guide and what Deano87 recommended. I do have Tacview, HeadtrackIR and SRS (not sure if those count as mods). Freeze would still occur.

 

I agree with you about the loadout I created in the ME. It was a new (not an edit of existing loadout) CAP loadout, Wingtip hard points AIM9x each, x4 AIM120c, 2 wing fuel tanks, 1 centerline fuel tank, %100 internal fuel, %100 cannon w/ HE+tracer ammo, no other ordinance or pods.

 

Interestingly, in mission via ground crew when I selected this loadout or just selected each individual hardpoint to load with same ordinance no bug or freeze occurred.

 

I wasn't able to reproduce the problem with other aircraft in the ME either. I never tried this loadout in MP since I'm still learning the F-16.

 

Just wanted to say that my first "bug" report has been a very positive experience. Was a little nervous about posting it on the forum. Big thanks again for the help!

Edited December 27, 2019 by armchairGman

[BIGNEWY]

Thanks for the reply and kind words,

 

good to hear you have a work around.

 

I will continue to watch for this but have not seen it myself yet.

 

Please ensure you have done the cleanup ( for standalone ) or verify ( for steam users)

 

This will remove any files that should not be in DCS install

 

followed by a repair.

 

I have a guide in my signature below.

 

thank you

[armchairGman]

Yes sir, sounds good. I just got the Hornet to play around with as well. All repairs and file cleaning done.

 

I probably should have started learning on a more mature module anyway. :D