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[UNABLE TO REPRODUCE]Hornet HSI MAP issues (?)


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Hello gentlemen,

 

Yesterday, flying a F18 Persian mission, I found a weird bug with HSI MAP that with SCL40 or less was cutting some of the map away? SCL80 or more was OK.

 

I did test it today again with an extra new fresh beta installation without any mods with Caucasus and Persian map. Same issue. Didn't not matter, where I added my flight, the map showed black square. I cleaned the fxo and metashare folders etc.

 

Unfortunately, I don't have more space to install Stable to test more. Will attach some pictures.

 

Any ideas?

 

(NB, tried to search the same issue in forums, did not find any. If there is, sorry for double post).

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Posted

Hi

 

seems ok for me, can you attach your dcs log when it happens.

 

Also try a cleanup and repair or verify for steam, I have a guide below.

 

Switching to stable wont help they are currently the same version number.

 

thanks

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Hi BIGNEWY,

 

 

Thanks for the feedback!

I cleanup and repair through Powershell for both installation and removed all files from Saved Games\folder.

 

 

Then I ran both non- and modded versions, both had still the same issues.

I crabbed logs for you, maybe this will help to find the issue?

 

 

Thanks!

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Posted

Thanks I dont see anything obvious in the log,

 

can you do me a short track replay showing it happen, I want to run the same as you on my machine to see if I can reproduce.

 

thanks

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Posted

Thanks BIGNEWY,

Sure, here is the track file, log, 2x pictures.

 

 

If this issue will not replicate for you, I could uninstall, clean registers etc and install it again.

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Posted

Thanks BIGNEWY,

It can be, even though I thought I removed all mods or left overs.

But I will remove the beta and clean up the register, and reinstall it as a fresh installation. Let's see, if this helps. I will keep you updated.

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Thanks BIGNEWY,

It can be, even though I thought I removed all mods or left overs.

But I will remove the beta and clean up the register, and reinstall it as a fresh installation. Let's see, if this helps. I will keep you updated.

 

you shouldn't need to touch the registry.

 

But a fresh install may help in this case.

 

let us know how you get on

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Try running Repair first and have it clean up files after repair. It saves the you hassle of having to do a complete install and if repair finds any stray files you missed, it might help identify what is possible causing the issue if it's just in your machine.

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BIGNEWY and Sierra99, thanks for all recommendations! :)

 

 

 

Unfortunately, no luck! Yesterday's and today's testing results:

1. Repaired, clean up and additionally removed at first all data from metashaders/fxo and after failure, Saved Games\*.* folders for creating a new configs - no joy;

2. Installed a new, fresh Stable and Beta, renamed any linkage to any mods- no joy;

3. Started to remove latest 2 weeks WIN patches or installations. Interestingly, after Malwarebyte's new version (had exclusion rules added before for DCS) removal it worked a bit (no black boxes), but to confirm that this is the issue, I reinstalled it and removed it after - no joy, my conclusion was that Malwarebyte was not the issue here;

4. Started to play with DCS settings, weirdly MSAA and SSAA off lost the whole map for a while (totally blacked out). Tested also with Nvidia AA etc, did not have any effects - no joy;

 

5. Copied no modded new beta to my other computer with a different HW setup, it had the same issue - no joy, I guess so should not be HW related issue;

6. I reinstalled WIN to remove any leftovers + added older Nvidia drivers + WIN 1903 (before I had 1909), no Malwarebytes and very basic installation - no joy.

 

 

So, have done anything and loosing my mind now. Don't know, where is the issue with my installation/computer. Off course, i can live without it, but still, would be nice to have fully working module :)

 

 

 

BTW, made this video, when testing, today and you can see how it's reappearing fully in some places, and in others it will disappear in different SCL's again. Like there are some map places, where it's cut. The black line is running in the same place all the time.

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Kgw08ceIVYvEW9Ha5ev94QACSVvFmjoI/view

 

 

Today, when digging the forum, found something similar. Just in interest, I tried to test and play with MAP or TCN update in HSI, but did not help:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=246749

 

 

 

Let me know, if you need more data or testing material. Or, it a lost call :D

 

 

Thanks!

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Gentlemen, I "might" figured it out, why I was missing random textures and HSI MAP was blacked out. Fortunately, it seems not a bug or an issue with my DCS installation(-s), WIN or drivers etc.

 

 

 

I think it's related to \Mod\terrains\Caucasus\RasterCharts, as when I was deeply investigating/testing my repeating issue, I now understand that HSI MAP is using these .dds files. Some of these sizes and pictures are missing fully or partly map details and it's is replicated to HSI. That's why SCL80/160 seemed an issue free, as these were all in details.

 

 

 

For example, grid WP89 represents exactly the black line/box: Mods\terrains\Caucasus\RasterCharts\0.25M\16m_xAB-1.zip\16m_xab-1_x5_z7.dds in HSI MAP SCL10.

 

 

 

BIGNEWY and Sierra99, don't exactly understand how it was working for you, but thanks for the all help and for me, it's now case closed. I hope in the future (if possible), it will be improved :)

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Posted

I have a look alike situation in A10-C, when the TAD scale is 5 no map is shown, I have to scale it up to 10 or more to show the map. dont know if its related to your problem though...good luck!

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