Real life naviagtion Equipment

[thesystem]

Well, US / Western planes have the waipoints programmed on a Electronic card....but how have the russians this? Like in de Su-27 and Mig-29....how does their navigation system work?

 

Would be handy if someone knows this haha

 

Thanks in advance!:smilewink:

[Ender]

this is performed with special (military) programm gears and linear valve computers. this equipment weight together with radar is about 1/4 - 1/3 of the total aircraft weight. alas, gears running at 100'000s RPM's and running-wave valves can not run long, and need a replacement every 10-20 flight hours. some divisions can not perform any of military tasks due to lack of spare valves and gears. that's because a biggest factory, producing them, situating in Kiev, and another one can not provide enough valves for all needs. in addition, that gears are alse used in russian tv-sets and cars, so military aviation is not only industry suffering from the lack of fine components supply...

hope that helps.

[4c Hajduk Veljko]

this is performed with special (military) programm gears and linear valve computers. this equipment weight together with radar is about 1/4 - 1/3 of the total aircraft weight. …

1/5 of the weight then goes to the coal powered steam generator. Su-27 for example can carry approximately 5,78 tonnes of coal, which is enough to power the steam generator for approximately 6543 seconds …

 

He, he, he … Anybody else with great “knowledge” of Russian navigational systems?

[thesystem]

Well, to sort it out abit...i know it works with gyros and all sorts of that but i more mean like....how do they program a route into it?;)

Like airliners have an FMC, western fighters have some kinda box that they plug in....how do russians do that?

[Ender]

well mig-29a has a small keyboard in the cabin. pilot (or groung personel) can input data into it using some king of commands set. the whole keyboard keys count is like on the usual poket calculator. there is a scanned manula in russian in the internet where waypoint programming process is described. i havn't read it thoroughly, but it seems that:

1) special coordinate system exist in the device, coordinates may be given both in that system or in standart world navigation system (dunno how is it in english).

2) waypoints may be programmed in flight as well as on the ground.

3) aircraft can receive several data (and, maybe, waypoint coordinates, i don't remember) from the secure radio channel in flight.

so, there is a little numpad to the right, he just pushes the buttons..

[IvanK]

Here are some details on the Mig29A system. I am pretty sure later systems are far more flexible and pilot friendly.

[RvEYoda]

1/5 of the weight then goes to the coal powered steam generator. Su-27 for example can carry approximately 5,78 tonnes of coal, which is enough to power the steam generator for approximately 6543 seconds …

 

He, he, he … Anybody else with great “knowledge” of Russian navigational systems?

 

:megalol:

[Olgerd]

On MiG-29 there is a dedicated 'programming' panel in one of access doors outside of the cockpit. The coordinates are entered manually. There are 3 waypoints, 3 airfields, and 3 RSBN (a kind of russian TACAN) stations, so it does not take too much of time.