AH-64 Cooperative mode...dual cockpit

[OB1]

Just think this thread requires a revive... cooperative dual cockpit is something that would be a revolutionary step in development.

[TeeJay82]

Bah... make a 1seated a2g chopper... i like it alone in my pit

[rexehuk]

2 Seater.... F15E! That is the two seater I wish for. Flying multiplayer in the same jet controlling different systems would be pretty good.

[msalama]

Screw all this carp. A multiplayer Hind is what we weirdos need. And if you don't agree, you need your medication (re)checked. :music_whistling:

[GGTharos]

I don't agree, and I will happily medicate you with an AIM-120 no matter where you fly that chopper ;)

[jazjar]

Oh really, when I was flying an A-10 mission I heard a bunch of bullet-against-metal sounds and noticed that all my systems, including my engines, were down. I ejected and cycled through the F2 view and found a Hind flying over my burnt wreck. I looked up into the clouds and saw it crowded with MIgs. I then remembered I had a four-ship F-15C CAP with GG's AIM-120s somewhere, so I looked above the cloud layer and found it crowded with Mig-29s. Wondering where my F-15s where I searched frantically with the F2 button, I finally found the sole surviving aircraft landing in Tbilisi, missing parts of its wing as well as its radar and the whole aircraft was a wreck with bullet holes as shrapnel holes covering it. This was the improved A-10C 3D model with a better damage model than the A-10 itself. I could barely see the "Capt. Todd Pearson" or whatever scribbled on the side, it was torn up and beat up. I do have to say the fight was pretty unfair though. I only had two A-10Cs, two grounded apaches ??????, four F-15Cs, and two German SEAD aircraft, but the Russians had multiple Four-ships of Mig-29s, and Hordes upon hordes of Mi-24 Hinds. Sorry for bringing DCS A-10C to the Black Shark forums, but I needed to show GG that Eagles are not invincible. Cheers!

By the way, vote for next aircraft as Tornado IDV, whooooooo!

[GGTharos]

But you haven't shown me anything but the fact that you got nailed by a chopper ... tsk ...

[Bulletstop]

pawned again, ouch, what a way to start the new year, roflmao.

 

 

 

Bullet

[OB1]

vote for next aircraft as Tornado IDV, whooooooo!

 

well its a 2 seater !! could be a coop 2 seater... I think any plane that has 2 seat coop ability in the game would be a winner just for the new welcomed experience! as for the people that like to be loners in the cockpit im sure they can get an AI to do the extra functions :joystick::joystick:

 

*cough* just realised the other day i voted for the super hornet... :cry:, well can always hope they model the F/A-18F version..

[power5]

I could see 2 seaters being fun in a LAN environment. I do not find much fun in sitting in front of my computer being flown by someone else while I flip some switches and watch radar bleeps, beeps, and sweeps. << (Spaceballs reference)

 

At a lan the two could be seated next to each other and have more direct contact like in real life. Would possibly make it fun enough for me, but still doubtfull.

[OB1]

I can see you point of view.. Flight sims have a detached online experience, and becomes more of a personal experience more than anything..

 

To give you an idea where im coming from.. these are a tried and tested experiences with great success. I am and have been an ogn arma member for quite some time.. yes 'armed assault 2' look it up if you dont know what it is, and yes DCS and ArmA are a completely different game, however the game itself is not what makes it great but the community experience. Every ones on TS3 and we have had structured games up to 30+ people in the past. Some people are on transport duty which you would think is extremely boring along with other seemingly boring tasks such as artillery control, operation command and scout... where the grunts, tank crews and air crews have all the fun.. its not the game or what you do in the game its the contributing factor within the community that makes it worth it.

 

Dont know about you guys but I cannot play a flight sim alone or with a bunch of random people that turns out to be an unorganized mess. Im always taking to the sky's with at least one other person I know well, and on TS3. Knowing how well this DCS crew can model aircraft and in such detail im sure there is plenty to do in the back seat, and if you are flying with a good buddy there is plenty to talk about. Especially if your in a dog fight you would be yelling in your buddy's ear.

 

And if your still dont buy it, then support the people that are eager for this experience, besides its not like you have to fly a 2 seater just pick another aircraft... when they make more.... :music_whistling:

[msalama]

I don't agree, and I will happily medicate you with an AIM-120 no matter where you fly that chopper ;)

 

:D A permanent cure for the whines and I-wants, surely...

 

Nah but really, I'm happy with whatever it is they decide to model next after the Hog. But let's just say that if it HAPPENS to be a multiplayable Hind then I'm even happier ;)

[jazjar]

Well, GG, I was trying to say that your beloved AIM-120s ( if they were launched ) did not save the F-15 flight from the hordes of Migs and save me from hordes of Hinds.

Edited January 2, 2011 by jazjar

[power5]

I can see you point of view.. Flight sims have a detached online experience, and becomes more of a personal experience more than anything..

 

To give you an idea where im coming from.. these are a tried and tested experiences with great success. I am and have been an ogn arma member for quite some time.. yes 'armed assault 2' look it up if you dont know what it is, and yes DCS and ArmA are a completely different game, however the game itself is not what makes it great but the community experience. Every ones on TS3 and we have had structured games up to 30+ people in the past. Some people are on transport duty which you would think is extremely boring along with other seemingly boring tasks such as artillery control, operation command and scout... where the grunts, tank crews and air crews have all the fun.. its not the game or what you do in the game its the contributing factor within the community that makes it worth it.

 

Dont know about you guys but I cannot play a flight sim alone or with a bunch of random people that turns out to be an unorganized mess. Im always taking to the sky's with at least one other person I know well, and on TS3. Knowing how well this DCS crew can model aircraft and in such detail im sure there is plenty to do in the back seat, and if you are flying with a good buddy there is plenty to talk about. Especially if your in a dog fight you would be yelling in your buddy's ear.

 

And if your still dont buy it, then support the people that are eager for this experience, besides its not like you have to fly a 2 seater just pick another aircraft... when they make more.... :music_whistling:

 

Reason that works in ArmA 2 is that the community is huge. I rarely see 20 people on a server in DCS world. ArmA is modeled after the real military and those who play it are aware of that fact. A flight sim is a flight sim. People play it to fly. If the game had to have all the engines needed to have realistic controls and physics for every piece of machinery it would bring even CLAY supercomputers to their knees. That may be why they have chosen to make individual modules. So the FM of the A10 does not need to have anything to do with the FM of the BS.

 

Real reason I see LAN being more successful is that my RIO could be my beer bitch while I am flying to our first WP. He can also hold my little black book of all the pilot chasing groupie girls I want to call when we get back to base. :D

[OB1]

Reason that works in ArmA 2 is that the community is huge. I rarely see 20 people on a server in DCS world. ArmA is modeled after the real military and those who play it are aware of that fact. A flight sim is a flight sim. People play it to fly. If the game had to have all the engines needed to have realistic controls and physics for every piece of machinery it would bring even CLAY supercomputers to their knees. That may be why they have chosen to make individual modules. So the FM of the A10 does not need to have anything to do with the FM of the BS.

 

Real reason I see LAN being more successful is that my RIO could be my beer bitch while I am flying to our first WP. He can also hold my little black book of all the pilot chasing groupie girls I want to call when we get back to base. :D

 

Yea DCS is a flight sim and Arma is a soldier sim, Arma is an impressive and dynamic game but its aircraft modeling and avionics are pathetic. DCS is closer to modeling the real airforce. As for requiring a supercomputer to play ? well Arma still manages to bring the best of computers to its knees no matter what your configuration. The reason for DCS modules is the result and extent of their R&D and their development teams ability in relation to feasible deadlines.

 

I think the popularity of the DCS series is underestimated. There are more people playing it than you think, its the stigma of flight sims that tend to separate its genre from the commonly played games combined with the lack of dedicated server support. In the OGN ArmA community there are at least 10 of us that are DCS fanatics 2 or 3 of them are crazy enough to be building their own cockpits, and this is from an ArmA community. Im sure there are plenty more people/close nit groups out there... We just need to bring them all together...

 

Just thinking as I write this post... I am in a unique position to... say host a DCS community ? I have close ties to the RAAF IL2 community which im sure they would be interested in such an idea. In addition I have access to their servers, as well as an additional blade server and TS3 server on top of that..

hmmm ideas ideas.... we shall see.... :book:

[speed-of-heat]

I think building a sim that demands two players to work is NUTS, the market just isnt that big for the ROI. It would require an AI option(s), to enable the sim to work correctly.

 

Building a SIM that has a two player Pilot and Gunner option, is a great idea for the multiplayer market, IMO it would work as well online as on a LAN.