Getting Pyotr

[=Mac=]

I've tried numerous ways from Harpoons (useless) to Jsows (can't get close enough anyway) and Jdams (there is a way.)

 

If the Pyotr is in flat terrain (say, at sea or close to shore but nowhere near mountains) you can't attack it successfully.

 

If the Pyotr is in port AND near a mountain (like Novorossiysk), I can successfully sink it no matter what surface to air defenses are launched. (Migs and Sukhoi's are a whole other kettle of fish!)

 

Pyotr's radar is 166 feet above the surface of the water. That gives an aircraft flying no more than 100 feet above the water (or flat land) the way in to about 28 nautical miles. Anything except Jdams and iron bombs are taken out on their way in by the Pyotr. How to get a Jdam close enough? I don't think there is a way other than terrain masking.

[Nickkerkwijk]

Its impossible to sink that warship in the open with just one aircraft. Youll need a lot of aircraft to fire a lot of missiles to saturate its defence systems. The best thing to do is to avoid getting naar the ship. Even the best anti ship missiles like the KH22 have to be launched in large numbers to score a hit

[razo+r]

Fly towards space (30-40K feet) so you can drop them so far out (JDAM) that air defense will be useless against you.

[Raisuli]

Pete's SA-10s and TORs will eat your JDAMs for breakfast. Keep shooting until they run out of air defense missiles if you've got the patience. Launch harpoons with a low flight path; that seems to work better, but it's no guarantee.

 

 

 

Oddly, for reasons defying explanation, the Soviets did not build it to be sunk easily. A bit like trying to tackle a properly established SA-10 site with a single aircraft. You can do it, but it take a LOT of sorties.

 

 

How embarrassing would it be if your ten billion dollar ship got sunk by one ten million dollar aircraft and a couple giant white...uh...devices of death?

[razo+r]

Pete's SA-10s and TORs will eat your JDAMs for breakfast. Keep shooting until they run out of air defense missiles if you've got the patience. Launch harpoons with a low flight path; that seems to work better, but it's no guarantee.

 

 

Bombs won't get attacked by Air defense in DCS.

[Raisuli]

Bombs won't get attacked by Air defense in DCS.

 

 

Sweet! I'll have to play with that against those pesky SA-10 sites.

[Nickkerkwijk]

IIRC you can only get in gbu38 range and not with the big gbu31. How much gbu38s will it take to sink the Pyotr, something like 20?

[Sierra99]

Bombs won't get attacked by Air defense in DCS.

 

They won't?

[=Mac=]

Tor's only can track and attack two targets at a time. Send three harms or jsows together and one will get through.

 

As for the Pyotr, I did a popup and sent four GBU 31's up and over the mountains at Novo and all four hit easy. I was launched on by many Tors, SA-8, and others but I was back down the side of the mountain and got away unscathed. However, four GBU 31's will not sink the Pyotr. You need one more hit.

 

Of course, any strategist will have the East side of the mountains heavily guarded with anti air up the wazoo. So, too, an attacking strategist will have them hit before an anti-ship strike goes sliding up the valley.

 

So goes war.