AesclepiusCrow Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 Hi all, Having a curious issue with the JF-17 -- ran a quick start, set my settings, got ready to get underway and low and behold, I get blurry vision until I black out. I've never run into hypoxia in the game before, but this sure sounds like what it'd be. Seems to be repeatable for me just by making a new mission. Is this a known issue or something recently added? I've not seen this in the past few weeks, just today, so I'm assuming it was introduced in the newest patch? Edit: I should add this is a ramp start QME mission, so cockpit is cold and dark, on the tarmac, lid is open. Shouldn't be a situation where hypoxia would kick in.
J20Stronk Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 It could be that it's too hot or too cold, not hypoxia. Pilot reaction to cabin conditions and temperature is modeled in the JF-17. You should start the engine, seal the pit and turn on ECS ASAP if you are playing a mission where it's really hot or cold.
AesclepiusCrow Posted April 18, 2020 Author Posted April 18, 2020 Interesting -- hadn't thought of that. I'll check out what the QME is setting the weather to and update.
AesclepiusCrow Posted April 18, 2020 Author Posted April 18, 2020 Curiously, after running the mission in -10c, the same didn't occur and now I can't seem to get the effect to happen. Very curious. But at least gone?
Cruiser18 Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 This actually happened to me yesterday as well on a MP server, at the end of a rather long flight where I had just refueled from a tanker. Shortly after that, I went on course for my homestretch but then my pilot just suddenly started seeing more and more double and blacked out with 20 seconds. I had to quite the server because the plane kept staying at altitude, event without autopilot on. My working theory was that I had somehow run out of available o2, even though I've never tried that on any other module.
unknown Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) Hi all, Having a curious issue with the JF-17 -- ran a quick start, set my settings, got ready to get underway and low and behold, I get blurry vision until I black out. I've never run into hypoxia in the game before, but this sure sounds like what it'd be. Seems to be repeatable for me just by making a new mission. Is this a known issue or something recently added? I've not seen this in the past few weeks, just today, so I'm assuming it was introduced in the newest patch? Edit: I should add this is a ramp start QME mission, so cockpit is cold and dark, on the tarmac, lid is open. Shouldn't be a situation where hypoxia would kick in. If you start cold and dark you have to connect your Oxygen tube with the connector in the cockpit and also open the valve. There is a oxygen pressure gauge too. Attached pic is taken from Chucks IF-17 guide. I don't know/didn't try how it's implemented by deka but i guess it's the default ED implementation and that does not simulate sitting in the cockpit without your oxygen mask, so even in the F-18 cockpit open you will wear your mask and suffer from Hypoxia without your Oxygen supply enabled, thats how they implemented it. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=252871&highlight=hypoxia .... My working theory was that I had somehow run out of available o2, even though I've never tried that on any other module. You can see your oxygen decreasing on the pressure gauge over your flight time, but i never was long enough into the air to run out of it(low yes but not out). Edited April 18, 2020 by unknown Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1, F-4E Phantom II System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings
AesclepiusCrow Posted April 18, 2020 Author Posted April 18, 2020 If you start cold and dark you have to connect your Oxygen tube with the connector in the cockpit and also open the valve. This is likely the culprit as I very rarely (if ever) cold start the Jeff. It's likely I've just never done it before and this is the first time I've run into the behavior.
AesclepiusCrow Posted April 20, 2020 Author Posted April 20, 2020 You can see your oxygen decreasing on the pressure gauge over your flight time, but i never was long enough into the air to run out of it(low yes but not out).I should mention the hypoxia effect began immediately as the mission loaded, not after any time had passed. By about 2 minutes from mission start, I had lost color and was beginning to get tunnel vision. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk
L0op8ack Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) O2 source: (~3.5 hour) 1. onboard Oxygen bottles: 16L 2. onboard emergency Oxygen: 0.4L, you need descend to less than 3000m ASAP if you have to use this 3. O2 from ECS air(lower than 3000m), need disconnect onboard O2 tube , because no way to sim mask Low O2, too hot or too cold, will be bring you problems. Edited April 20, 2020 by L0op8ack
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