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Hi

 

just a quick question / suggestion.

After you flip the afterburn detent over so your throttles stop before going into AB, you shorten the distance the throttles have to travel before getting to 100%

Do you not loose accuracy with this?

 

Would it not be better to remove the idel detent as well so you regain the same travel distance for your throttles and just map engin start/cutoff to another button on your thottle?

I mean how many times in a game do you use AB detent vs idel detent cutoff?

 

Has anyone looked into or thought of doing this?

Posted

Not, really, and yes sort of.

 

The ab detent is a physical thing, but even without the physical detent the ab detent is still there logically.

 

Yes it does reduce the total travel available to the throttle, pre AB, but it would be there anyway, removing the physical detent would not change that.

 

The best you can do is make sure it’s set up properly:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+redkite+ab+detent&docid=608023586216675893&mid=59B6B963430A346EE56259B6B963430A346EE562&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

 

Should help

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Posted

Yes i have seen that video. My AB detent is flipped and works perfectly.

I was more talking about cutting off the idel cut off detent so there is no physical stop when pulling back on the throttle., thus increasing the total travel of the throttles.

This would require the engine cut off button be reasigned to somewher else. But this wouild be a permenant MOD.

But like I said in my original post, how many times do you use engine cut of vs AB.

 

Anyway, where is my grinder :-D

Posted

ok i misunderstood your statement/question.

 

if you load up a joystick tool, to look at the axis, you will see that actually it doesnt actually "measure" beyond the idle detent. even if i lift the throttle over the detent it doesn't show any additional "movement" being measured.

 

What the idle detent seems to do is guard you from the two "buttons" that get pressed (DX29 and DX30), rather than provide you increased throw... that could be an artefact of how it was calibrated though...

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Posted

interesting about it not showing any more movment beyond the idle stopper/guard. More testing required.

i just realised that i have been miss spelling idle. :lol:

 

me good fighter pilot me am

Posted

That was a good question kitcho. I have been thinking the same thing. I never use the ground idle position so was thinking maybe get more total travel. Glad I don't have to bother.

Posted (edited)

Hi both, well I have been wanting some more travel, for increased accuracy at smaller throttle movements, especially during refuelling and I managed it from the other end.

 

I flipped the plastic detent piece so I had no physical step, then remapped the afterburner kick in point to approx position of about a cm before the end.... this frees up around 2cm of additional range of travel.

 

Makes a huge difference, and just enabled me to refuel properly for the first time tonight, so I am well chuffed. Before, the physical movement range was so small, fine adjustments were very tricky.

 

BTW, can’t find it right now, but definitely read a thread where the guy extended it the other end by doing a similar thing......will try and put in a link.....

 

Edit: here is the link: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=228179

Edited by markturner1960

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