Easing the Gun...

[ESzczesniak]

I know it will be best if I attach a track (and will eventually), but I'm not at the home computer to share have this file right now. In my passes in the SC Case I mission (all I've done so far except launch), I can't get rid of EGIW, which is always giving me a no-grade.

 

Before everyone jumps on me, I know that settling a high ball in close is bad, big power cuts are bad, and we go full power immediately after hitting the deck. I don't think so, but I could have been guilty the first pass or two. However, the next 3 passes or so, I was very cautious to ensure I wasn't throttling back. In fact, one I had set up well enough I was able to trap without almost any throttle change somewhere between IC and AR through touchdown.

 

Yet, my grade for all last three passes was -, EGIW. Nothing else. I read in another thread that the SC LSO is setup to expect MIL or higher at touchdown, and perhaps this is the issue. But the problem is going full power at touchdown (or even "anticipated touchdown") leaves a reaction time where you are not at full power until after touchdown...even if only by fractions of a second.

 

I'm pretty sure LSO is working, because prior to this cleaned up batch of 5 passes, I've seen some alphabet soup including AFU a few times!

 

Any thoughts on this?

[TonyG]

Yup, I agree. I submitted as a bug. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=274377

 

I’m in the 70s for scoring on Banklers mission and routinely grade Unicorns in Airboss, and other than the EG calls lots of _OK_ from SC. I don’t spot the deck or otherwise cut my throttles to land. I am seeing way more EG calls than I think there should be.

[ESzczesniak]

Yup, I agree. I submitted as a bug. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=274377

 

I’m in the 70s for scoring on Banklers mission and routinely grade Unicorns in Airboss, and other than the EG calls lots of _OK_ from SC. I don’t spot the deck or otherwise cut my throttles to land. I am seeing way more EG calls than I think there should be.

 

 

Ya, I feel I'm in a similar boat. I don't have airboss, but in Bankler's trainer I'm 69+ averaging about 72. I've flown a few more passes now with some _OK_ (which seems to be too easy to get BTW), but it seems the EGIW is very touchy. My best interpretation of the computer code is that it always wants to see increasing power in the wires. In reality, stable power should be fine with perhaps even with tolerance for a very mild decrease.

 

 

 

It seems like they're trying to grade the full power at touchdown for bolter, but are catching it a bit early.

[Pieterras]

I have exactly the same

[BMGZ06]

I thought it was a bug as well but it isn't. The grading system is watching where you are pulling power and we are all doing it in the wrong spot. I have now trained myself to make sure I am set properly by the time I get in close so I can just maintain power and then add it in right before I touch down. Most people are adjusting back over the wires and then are late adding it back in after the wheels hit the deck. I am not getting EGIW anymore. Consistently getting OK 2 3 or 4 wires with no other letter soup after that. You will get the feel for it but you have retrain your muscle memory over the ramp.

[ESzczesniak]

I thought it was a bug as well but it isn't. The grading system is watching where you are pulling power and we are all doing it in the wrong spot. I have now trained myself to make sure I am set properly by the time I get in close so I can just maintain power and then add it in right before I touch down. Most people are adjusting back over the wires and then are late adding it back in after the wheels hit the deck. I am not getting EGIW anymore. Consistently getting OK 2 3 or 4 wires with no other letter soup after that. You will get the feel for it but you have retrain your muscle memory over the ramp.

 

I am not in agreement with this. I have had a number of passes with stable throttles by the ramp, even “in close”, and I still get EGIW. There shouldn’t be a need to allow yourself room on the ball to add power at the ramp. Stable power through touchdown is not on any of the no-no lists. In fact, if you’ve done your job well a number of passes could/should end this way (ignoring all the wild real world weather, turbulence, etc). Yes, you’re going to be going full power the moment you think you’re hitting the deck. But this isn’t part of the grading period. If you’re flying the ball to touchdown, there should be no penalty for not adding power at the ramp if your flying a perfect cresting high ball.

 

Sure, we can train ourselves to do what the grading is asking. But I do not believe that the grading system is reflective of real life grading. It is expecting you adding power from the ramp on, or at a high power setting. One of the paddles rules to live by is fly the ball all the way to touchdown. It’s impossible to do this right if you have always have to add power at the ramp.

Edited May 25, 2020 by ESzczesniak

[bonesvf103]

Always wondered why do they call it ease guns?

 

v6,

boNes

[Yoda967]

Always wondered why do they call it ease guns?

 

One of the slang terms for "throttle" is "gun", probably because the throttle in some WWI-era aircraft resembled a gun. (At least according to yourdictionary.com.)

Edited May 25, 2020 by Yoda967