Harlikwin Posted June 19, 2020 Posted June 19, 2020 :thumbup: IMO, only the pilot that matter. Too many people are just too much rely on their weapon and forget about tactics, teamworks, if their weapon is not superior than others, they just cry.:D Yup. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
GGTharos Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 Does it have the same battery life as the B? It appears both run out of power. It does. It should run quite a bit longer - the thing that allowed the bigger motor in there were more compact, more efficient electronics and a slightly smaller warhead (IIRC). So yep, a 120C5 should have a longer run-time. I mean there are only 4 huge, high-density batteries in there :) Increases in range capability can come from a number of sources, not just the motor. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
GGTharos Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 some people hate SD-10 and want it to be nerfed again and wasting a lot of energy in talking rather than training ( nonsense ofc ) ... and some people just love the SD-10 and want it to be a super missile. :) Wait for the new FM, it will change a lot of things just by itself. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
sylkhan Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 ... and some people just love the SD-10 and want it to be a super missile. ... and some people just love the AMRAAM and want it to be super missile Wait for the new FM, it will change a lot of things just by itself. Oh, i know the ED agenda (and yours), killing the sd-10.
Tiger-II Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 It does. It should run quite a bit longer - the thing that allowed the bigger motor in there were more compact, more efficient electronics and a slightly smaller warhead (IIRC). So yep, a 120C5 should have a longer run-time. I mean there are only 4 huge, high-density batteries in there :) Increases in range capability can come from a number of sources, not just the motor. Well that is why I'm surprised the C ended up having LESS range. It's a faster missile, so by definition should travel further in 80 seconds than the B, yet it flew a SHORTER distance. WTH? I've yet to re-test. Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
GGTharos Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 ... and some people just love the AMRAAM and want it to be super missile Oh, i know the ED agenda (and yours), killing the sd-10. No, you don't know anything. The SD-10 will be fine when the new FM comes in. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
GGTharos Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) Well that is why I'm surprised the C ended up having LESS range. It's a faster missile, so by definition should travel further in 80 seconds than the B, yet it flew a SHORTER distance. Faster and just a bit less draggy, at zero lift but possibly a bit more induced drag if it needs to turn. Either way, its rocket motor has 10% more fuel. Was your test a straight fly-out (no target) or lofted? Edit: Yup, you lofted it. I expect the guidance being the same is causing some issues. Lofted trajectories take a longer time and right now, those trajectories might not be optimal. Also, is that a typo or is your launch distance significantly different? Edited June 21, 2020 by GGTharos [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
sylkhan Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 No, you don't know anything. Yes, i know The SD-10 will be fine when the new FM comes in. Will be fine? for who? For you and ED ? But what do you know about sd-10 ? nothing.. Perhaps it would be better to let people who know better to do their own missile with new FM, because it seems it will be ED work.
GGTharos Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 Perhaps it would be better to let people who know better to do their own missile with new FM, because it seems it will be ED work. And ED knows their work very well. But since you 'know' so well, go ahead, prove that what ED is doing is wrong. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Tiger-II Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 Faster and just a bit less draggy, at zero lift but possibly a bit more induced drag if it needs to turn. Either way, its rocket motor has 10% more fuel. Was your test a straight fly-out (no target) or lofted? Edit: Yup, you lofted it. I expect the guidance being the same is causing some issues. Lofted trajectories take a longer time and right now, those trajectories might not be optimal. Also, is that a typo or is your launch distance significantly different? No typo. I took it directly from ACMI (I linked it if you wat to look). I forgot that after firing all the B's it would switch to C automatically, so I fired it as soon as I realized. I should fire maddog at nothing - good point. Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
Terrorban Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 And ED knows their work very well. But since you 'know' so well, go ahead, prove that what ED is doing is wrong. Are you an ED developer? Do you have any connections with the company? Genuinly curious. Airplanes : A-10C II | AJS-37 | A/V-8B | F-4E | F-14A/B | F/A-18C | FC3 | JF-17 | M2000-C Helicopters : AH-64D | CH-47F | Ka-50 III | Mi-24P | Mi-8MTV2 | SA342 | UH-1H Other Modules : Combined Arms | Persian Gulf | Afghanistan TRAINED - LEARNING - LOW EXPERIENCE - ABANDONED
GGTharos Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 Are you an ED developer? Do you have any connections with the company? Genuinly curious. Other than being a tester long ago and speaking with some of the devs, no. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Harlikwin Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 Are you an ED developer? Do you have any connections with the company? Genuinly curious. He seems to know alot about missiles though. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
foxwxl Posted June 22, 2020 Posted June 22, 2020 and u forget a very very important element Training lots of it and also Test ...... how can u expect to defeat other pilots if u dont know what your Jet and your missiles can do a lot of practice needed here that is why when i choose aircraft i fly it many hours and days of training in MP Ground and create special missions to training on some situations and try to apply it in MP or SP ( for me i prefer MP ) missile can be a powerful tool but ( a Tool ) u need to learn how to use it ... some people hate SD-10 and want it to be nerfed again and wasting a lot of energy in talking rather than training ( nonsense ofc ) If u want to be Good dont use words use your throttle and your Joystick :smilewink: Edit : this words not for u Fox :) Yup, I use to do a lot of SP missile dodge training in when a big change occurs, this will help you familiar of the new missile characteristic and know the new limitations.:D Deka Ironwork Tester Team
Tiger-II Posted June 22, 2020 Posted June 22, 2020 I came from BMS where the missiles were already well modelled (at least the aircraft launched missiles). SAMs weren't bad, either (still better and more lethal than DCS). DCS was a walk in the park by comparison, and why I got bored quickly of anything involving air-to-air combat with missiles. With these new changes, I'm starting to get interested again. Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot."
Chiron Posted June 22, 2020 Author Posted June 22, 2020 Yup, I use to do a lot of SP missile dodge training in when a big change occurs, this will help you familiar of the new missile characteristic and know the new limitations.:D oh there is a limitation my friend there is but people need to figure it out :smilewink:
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