how promised a new F-15c model is on the way

[borchi_2b]

hi folks, last night i figured that 3d max 8 does not work properly anymore.

next week i want to reinstall windows, so sorry for not having the blackbird in lomac allready. i have to apologise for all the time the blackbird needs, sorry

 

well in the meantime i have started yesterday a new project.

somebody told me that the walmis f-15c files were lost some time ago and that there is no update on the model available anymore.

ok, that was the time i thought, make your own then ;-)

 

so this is what i ended up last night after a few hours of playing with the prog: 4 pictures, diffrent stages

 

 

can you recognise which plane that will be some day , lol

 

 

well my effort to this project is, to get a new , high detailed, but playable F-15c

 

the model is going to be designed like the newest flying f-15c, so do not be surprised when there might be tiny changes in the model in reference to the one all know.

the F-15c that is the reference for my model is the f-15c 86-0159, stationed at the RAF Lakenheath USAFE

 

ok, guys, hope you like what you see there so far.

 

greetz borchi_2b

 

p.s: we will also get a new pilot, for sure with some cool animations but this time i will not say zo anybody what kind of animations, cause some people used an idea i had a few month ago. lol

[TorwaK]

Nice work boom boom. Keep it up.

[SuperKungFu]

very cool, and you're doing this on your bday too. wow, we're suppose to give a gift to you, not the other way around lol.

 

Yea the nose was the most problematic on walmis F-15 because none of the reference layouts were that accurate. So the nose kinda looked like snoopy. So we were trying to use real photos as references but couldn't get an exact/perfect side angel to get that nose corrected. But it looks like you are on the right path. Good job mate.

Here's two real photos that might help

[Sir_Troooper]

Looks cool, keep it up! :) Maybe when your done with the C version can you make a D version too? I like two seaters more.:smartass:

[SuperKungFu]

The D version is already being worked on by Gys and Valery, they have a screen of it over at the DCS/Black shark thread.

[BrumTx]

Don't forget the blackbire please ..... It's needed ..... ohhh and a Dragon Lady if at all possible :)

[GGTharos]

What are you doing posting on the forum, borchi?

GET BACK TO WORK! :D

[Sir_Troooper]

The D version is already being worked on by Gys and Valery, they have a screen of it over at the DCS/Black shark thread.

 

Yes, I know, but it will be for BS, not is it?

[SuperKungFu]

yea it may be for Black Shark, however, models are still models. I'm sure once Black Shark comes out, you can always take the .lom file from that and manually put it into Lock On. Of course we won't be able to have an F-15E or D slot since we can't add new aircraft, but we can replace the F-15C. In addition get the skins and the necessary meinit edit and you're set. Because its basically the same principle, if you ask someone to create a new F-15E model, they will still give you a .lom file. This way, it saves everyone some time and effort just by waiting and purchasing black shark. I think ED can't do this "officially" because ubi owns the title to Lock On, so we just have to do it. Correct me if my logic is flawed.

[Sir_Troooper]

Oh, you are right. Silly me. Sorry.

[USSR_Gys71]

Our model will be setup for arguments that are differs from original LO. Not the same as on F-15C. Considering this all of us have to wait the model from borchi_2b.

[Sir_Troooper]

Oww. :(That's what i tought. So I'm not so silly at all. :P

[borchi_2b]

hi guys, i am happy to get that much feedback at the first day, allready.

well my cousin flew the 86-0159 at the RAF Lakenheath for 7 years and i have visited him at Lakenheath some times, so i hope to know where the important parts of the eagle are.

well for sure it will be a lom model and everybody will be able then to make thier own skins, and also the squads can make for every pilot an own slot with names etc, thanks to the cdds slots that are available then and editable

 

i do not know how fast i will be with the f-15, but i guess you will all get the info of progress via this forum or www.sim-mod.com

 

about the f-15d, well i thought about the f-15 as a base for all the other versions. it should be easy to make out of my final f-15c a d model, so well if there is enough time, we will see if i can fullfil your dreams. i thought about a f-15e to but that bird would only be available for videos, cause there is no way to toss bombs with the f-15 in lomac

 

so guys, please feel free to post any ideas you have for this bird, although it is still in the beginning, but i should think about animations allready in the beginning, which is important for many parts of the bird, cause sometimes it is good to know what should happen to organise the modeling.

 

i ahve some idea of the animations for the pilot, when you start the engines the pilot could close his mask for example. then when he closes the canopy he could pull down his facemask (helmglass) and put one thump up when the canopy is nearly closed.

that are just ideas of what could be done at that argument for example.

 

maybe that is some input for you guys, what i am thinking about

 

so then be creative and make some posts with some reasonable ideas

 

hope to see some nice ideas

 

greets borchi_2b

 

p.s.: can somebody post a link to the eagle threat of DCS, would like to have a look at it ;-)

[cristi]

Borchi if you need Reference Pictures Im here :D for some Help

[SuperKungFu]

This was my idea for the A-10 model but it seems kinda complicated for animation, so I'm just going to pass the idea onto you

 

What I imagined was a brand new detailed pilot model, when you takeoff from the tarmac, the game starts off with the canopy open and the staircase down and engines off. It would be really cool is the pilot's oxygen mask was not connected to the face. So the oxygen mask argument would be connected to the staircase going up and down. Therefore, as the stairs comes up = the pilot's arm comes up to hook the mask onto the face. This argument should be on the stairs not the canopy because otherwise if you eject, it wouldn't really make sense the mask goes off.

 

The pilot's visor, however, should not be connected to the plane's canopy, instead it would be connected to the gears. So as the gears comes down, the pilot's visor is up (which makes sense because he wants to see the runway). And when the gears are up, he's ready for combat so the visor will be down. And since the gear animation is also pretty long, it gives us the time for the pilot to move up his arm once again to toggle his visor.

 

Of course this is all a dream, I thought it would be nice to throw this idea out there.

[borchi_2b]

hey super kungfu, that sound reasonable to me

 

the thing is, i thought of the oxygenmask argument, when you start your engines, cause that is the time most of the pilots close thier masks.

at least shortly afterwords the engines are running

so we could make that with the helmglass connected to the stairs, and when he has it down, he could post thumbs up :-)

[SuperKungFu]

lol sure that sounds awesome too. If we only had some crew man on the tarmac so he could actually give the thumbs up to someone lol.

[TorwaK]

we could make that with the helmglass connected to the stairs, and when he has it down, he could post thumbs up :-)

 

sounds great:thumbup:

[borchi_2b]

well the thumbs up is just for the leader and wingamn, so it is more something for the squadflying or for example something like locerf, but it is a nice goody.

 

ahh i have so many ideas and there are so many things i would like to built, for example i would like to replace the f-117 with a nice model of a b2, lol, but ours would not cost 1.2 billion $ when it crashes

 

so many thing i have in my mind, unfortunatly grafic designers are limited just by that stupied hardcode, damn. i wish there would be no barrier for me, i have so many ideas also with the f-15.

then we could make own arguments etc, making new lighting and also strobes and flashlight ........

what i really would like to know is, when we fly at night, we always have this ugly looking pilot, is there a way to change that with the new pilotmodel and also the new f-15 model?

 

hmm, one thing before i go to bed, i think we as a group of designers should maybe get a page or have a page, where we can upload 3dmodels, as a model file, for example, i like the acesII of the falcon block 20 threat.

we could built a resource only for the modelers where the is a databox with many maodel, made buy the guys who work on lomac for free and in thier spear time, which we could use as community to save time when modelling and using a catalog of 3d models, what do you guys think of it?

this should be a way to keep lomac alive and maybe get a bit more independend from ed or ubisoft, although there is the hardcode. maybe when we can manage that, people will pay more attention to the communtiy, then before and we could make modules that maybe ed could integrate easy into DCS so that we gat back our loved planes and maybe some more, like f-18 or mig29k

that just one thought that came up to me last night.

i think if we can manage to get such thing developed, that not everybody should be able get acces to the modells, maybe each desigenr should have a folder where are pictures of the modules they could offer, examples like seats, pilots etc, and each person that want to use something that was done, has to aks the designer for permission, announces in the model, when it is done where he got certain parts from, and gives credits to the guys who helped out. this could be one way to do it

but well it is just a single thought of some lone ranger in the woods of lomac :gun_sniper::music_whistling:

 

p.s.: the pilot will get the new helmsystem (cuing helmet) like the one i were in my avatar

 

@cristi: thanks for the offer. i think i have about 1500 pictures of all diffrent eagles on my comp :-), should be enough i hope

[Sir_Troooper]

Well, a Strike Eagle would Be cool! I'll make all weapons for it if there will be a flyable F-15E!:thumbup:

[borchi_2b]

i guess there will be only a flyable f-15e for videos, wse will not be able to use the weapons in any way. when the f-15c is done it might be possible to make a f-15e

[cristi]

We have an F-15e made by that Guy ..... its a Chinese (sorry i forgot his name)

[borchi_2b]

can somebody post a link to this f-15e?

[-akyla-]

We have an F-15e made by that Guy ..... its a Chinese (sorry i forgot his name)

Do you mean RICK ? .. Rick hasn't done any F-15E models.

[SuperKungFu]

Rick does have an F-15E model, he stated that in one of his post. For whatever reason, he took down the picture because i remember i saw it before. It was in his J-10 thread.