Kusch Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 New Gripen N/DK roll out http://www.gripen.com/en/MediaRelations/News/2008/Gripen_Demonstrator_The_Future_has_Arrived.htm http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=pffx_bD3aVo&e More fuel: 3 Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)!
VMFA117_Poko Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Oooff. It's even prettier than the earlier version.
bigbelgian Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 I am in love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:wub: Its looking "crachumpsious":pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]cure"Biggy"bigbelgian
JaNk0 Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 One question. Now that it has two pylons on the belly, where does it fit its Laser Pod for the LGBs' ? Edit: Found a better pic. Do you think it will fit in the middle? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Fjordmonkey Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 A beautiful aircraft just got a facelift in not only looks, but also capabilities. It will be interesting to see what happens on Monday, as that is the date when Norway expects the bids for our new fighter aircraft. In the mix are the Gripen N, and the JSF. My choice? I'd take the Gripen, no questions asked. Regards Fjordmonkey Clustermunitions is just another way of saying that you don't like someone. I used to like people, then people ruined that for me.
59th_LeFty Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 One question. Now that it has two pylons on the belly, where does it fit its Laser Pod for the LGBs' ? Edit: Found a better pic. Do you think it will fit in the middle? http://www.canit.se/~griffon/aviation/img/saab/gripen/gripen_recc-pod.jpg There you go. Under the fuselage. edit: BTW, it has to be a very small pod :D [sIGPIC]http://www.forum.lockon.ru/signaturepics/sigpic5279_1.gif[/sIGPIC] I could shot down a Kitchen :smartass:
X-man Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Very nice! So is this what the E/F version will be or is that another one? 1 64th Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 135.181.115.54
Sanakius Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 any clue? on how is this Sweden such a resourcefull country that it can make their own fighters, ..?? i mean that in full respect, that is usually something you need partners etc.. EF is a product of all of EU, well, not all of it, most of it, and here we have one country that is capable of making it on their own? how is that? cheap resource, materials, engineers, ..what? .. i have to give it to them, to make a aircraft that is on a parallel with the E-fighter is quite the achivement :))) Go Sweden .. :))
X-man Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Sweden, or SAAB, has huge experience in Aircraft engineering, going way back (pre WWII). Plus, alot of parts are from outside of Sweden, for example engine... 64th Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 135.181.115.54
Vekkinho Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 By the first look I see new wing roots, new intakes, all in all a beautiful plane! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
JaNk0 Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 http://www.canit.se/~griffon/aviation/img/saab/gripen/gripen_recc-pod.jpg There you go. Under the fuselage. edit: BTW, it has to be a very small pod :D That pylon doesn't exist on this Demo Aircraft which is made for Norway/Denmark [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Mugatu Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Yes and their data links are 2nd to none! Not only A/C http://www.kockums.se/SurfaceVessels/visby.html Sweden, or SAAB, has huge experience in Aircraft engineering, going way back (pre WWII). Plus, alot of parts are from outside of Sweden, for example engine...
mvsgas Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 It does not look it would be able to carry the TGP in the center pylon with two GBU. Unless they have their own designed or one like the old F-18D laser pod (IIRC, it was smaller, I don't think the LITENING pod would fit) It is a beautiful aircraft. So new landing gear, more fuel, new avionics (data link, Radar?, etc) Cool To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
JaNk0 Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 What's the point have LGB then :S There must be some way.. ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
59th_LeFty Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 You can guide LGBs with a wingman carrying any POD. This is how it started in 'Nam :) [sIGPIC]http://www.forum.lockon.ru/signaturepics/sigpic5279_1.gif[/sIGPIC] I could shot down a Kitchen :smartass:
Udat Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 Sweden, or SAAB, has huge experience in Aircraft engineering, going way back (pre WWII). Plus, alot of parts are from outside of Sweden, for example engine... The engines are Volvo aren't they? Might be produces outside sweeden though. Intel i7-950 @stock, Asus P6X58D-E, 3x4GB Corsair Vengeance, Asus GTX 580, Corsair 120GB SSD, Corsair HX 750W PSU [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
S77th-konkussion Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 Looks nice! Especially from the front. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
JaNk0 Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 You can guide LGBs with a wingman carrying any POD. This is how it started in 'Nam :) Still, doesn't make much sense to me :huh: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
X-man Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 The engines are Volvo aren't they? Might be produces outside sweeden though. They are built under license in sweden. In the previous JAS39, they were built under licence as PA said. It seems that the engines for the DEMO is just GE F414, no Volvo. But for the production 39E/F, Vovlo might build them? 64th Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 135.181.115.54
mvsgas Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 Still, doesn't make much sense to me :huh: Many aircraft use that concept. That is , to carry a GBU while a second aircraft carries the laser designator. If you look for pictures of aircraft carrying GBU/LGB you would see many that don't have the pylons, the wiring or the equipment to lase a bomb but they carry GBU/LGB anyway. IIRC, the Tornado's GR1/GR1A use this method during Dessert Storm. Their laser aircraft where Buccaneers. More recently, You can see Marine AV8B Harriers in Afghanistan that did not have enough pylons to carry all the equipment (I.E. Bombs and targeting pod) So one would carry the laser pod and maybe one bomb and the other would carry a bomb and rockets. There many aircraft that have to do this, AFAIK. 1 To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
mvsgas Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 Some photos Here is a nice article: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.raf.mod.uk/gulf/images/spike3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.raf.mod.uk/gulf/spiker.html&h=200&w=350&sz=12&hl=en&start=52&um=1&tbnid=XceCV6WpUHQrTM:&tbnh=69&tbnw=120&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djaguar%2Btargeting%2Bpod%26start%3D36%26ndsp%3D18%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN Quote from this article: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.sfu.ca/casr/id-france-air-support-9.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.sfu.ca/casr/id-france-air-support.htm&h=89&w=105&sz=9&hl=en&start=61&um=1&tbnid=7xNLvzxog1cakM:&tbnh=71&tbnw=84&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmirage%2BF1%2Btargeting%2Bpod%26start%3D54%26ndsp%3D18%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3D1o9%26sa%3DN The Super Etendards will ‘ lase’ targets for the naval Rafales just as the Mirage 2000Ds will for the land-based Rafales. And the limitations are the same – SEMs targeting with PDL-CT pods cannot also be performing reconnaissance. But, immature as the Rafale work-up is and imperfect as this situation may be, the French were willing to support ISAF with the aircraft available. Sorry did not meant to derail To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
JaNk0 Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 Aah thanks mvsgas. I know that the current Gripen in the Swedish Air Force has a pylon placed a bit further away from the other ones so the FLIR pod would be fitted. Check pic 1 n 2 rom left. As you also can see in the early prototype pictures of the Demo plane for Norway, there were suppose to be an exact same pylon. Check pic nr 3. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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