Kneeboard Mod

[TWC_SLAG]

Is it possible to remove everything from a module’s kneeboard, and then just put in pages you want?

 

Is it possible to assign a name to a kneeboard page and then call it up using VoiceAttack?

 

Thanks,

[Weegie]

I'd think this is possible, but I've never actually tried it and reckon you'd need to make an OVGME mod for it as some of the pages will be re-inserted at every update.

 

The Default kneboard pages are in the game under Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta*\Mods\terrains\Map**\Kneeboard. Deleting them would hopefullly remove them from the kneeboard

 

I don't know where the dynamic coloured maps are kept though

 

*if you run the Open Beta if not it will probably be just DCS World

**The relevant map Caucasus, Nevada etc:

 

Some 3rd party modules add their own specific kneeboard sheets and I'm unsure where these are though, I don't think there is a fixed location so perhaps somebody with more knowlledge than me could help there

 

Module specific pages can be added via the Saved Games\kneeboard folders.

 

I use the standard kneeboard pages lightly modified and VA to call them up, including the Vaicom interactive kneeboard.

 

This is an old vdeo but might give you flavour of what I have, it has been improved a bit since that video but the principal is the same (I believe Bailey's VA profiles also do this and a lot more). The profile just uses loops and a tracking vairiable in VA to page to the correct kneeboard page, it's pretty simple stuff

Skip to around 3:50

 

https://youtu.be/KCAi_0_gc_E

[Bailey]

In response to the OP and to add to Weegie's post, the answer is "it depends".

Certain maps have default kneeboards. Those can be removed.

Certain Aircraft have default kneeboards too, which enable the setting of different freqs and other cool stuff. They can be removed.

The default map pages are generated via lua. I have not attempted removing these, as I find them very helpful. 
If you would like to add stuff to kneeboards, check out this template. https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313144/ All DCS Kneeboards for SP and MP, Players and Mission Makers. There is even a place to put kneeboard images that will show up in every module. (The "Saved Games\DCS\kneeboards" folder, for those who know what I am talking about. Just drop 'em in there.)

[TWC_SLAG]

 Can pages be reordered, to put the ones I want up front?  For instance, a check list in front of the maps.

 

thanks,

[Minsky]

5 hours ago, TWC_SLAG said:

 Can pages be reordered, to put the ones I want up front?  For instance, a check list in front of the maps.

 

Kneeboard pages are displayed in the following order:

 

1. Auto-generated maps (those ugly and blurry maps with your mission waypoints). They're always first no matter what. Technically, it is possible to remove them via lua editing*, but this will most likely break the Integrity Check in multiplayer, and there will be a single blank page left anyway.

 

2. User kneeboard images (located in Saved Games\<DCS>\KNEEBOARD\<MODULE NAME>), in alphabetical order.

 

3. Kneeboard images for a particular map (located in <DCS FOLDER>\Mods\terrains\<MAP NAME>\Kneeboard), also in alphabetical order. Can be safely deleted, but will be re-downloaded on next DCS update.

 

So if you really don't want to swipe through dozens of useless images, you can delete default map kneeboards, name your own images in a reverse-alphabetical order, and just start flipping the kneeboard backwards.

 

*

<DCS FOLDER>\Scripts\Aircrafts\_Common\Cockpit\KNEEBOARD\device\init.lua - delete generate_maps function at :110

<DCS FOLDER>\Scripts\Aircrafts\_Common\Cockpit\KNEEBOARD\indicator\init.lua - delete GetSelf function at :34

Remember to backup both files first.

 

 

22 hours ago, TWC_SLAG said:

Is it possible to assign a name to a kneeboard page and then call it up using VoiceAttack?

 

No. The best you can do is bookmark any specific page.

Edited December 7, 2020 by Minsky

[Bailey]

To be more specific, I believe the order of kneeboards is:

1. Autogen maps (...somewhere)

2. Aircraft Custom Lua Kneeboards (that come with the aircraft like the Viggen) (\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\AJS37\Cockpit\scripts\KNEEBOARD\pages)

3. _Common _Custom Kneeboard Scripts (\DCS World OpenBeta\Scripts\Aircrafts\_Common\Cockpit\KNEEBOARD\indicator\CUSTOM_)

3. General Custom (\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Kneeboard)
4. Aircraft Specific Custom (\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta\Kneeboard\AJS37)
5. Kneeboard images for a particular map (DCS.openbeta\Mods\terrains\<MAP NAME>\Kneeboard)
6. Aircraft Specific Custom (Server .miz \KNEEBOARD\AJS37\IMAGES)

7. General Custom (Server .miz \KNEEBOARD\IMAGES)

Looooots of places....

[Minsky]

1 hour ago, Bailey said:

Looooots of places....

 

Lots indeed, and thanks for the insight 

 

At least ED is aware that some of us hate the waypoint maps, so they might rework them at some point.

[Weegie]

7 hours ago, Minsky said:

No. The best you can do is bookmark any specific page.

 

It's possible in VA, unless I'm missing something. 

 

My (bad) YouTube Video shows that it's possible to get the kneeboard to go to a specific page and get called from a VA command, be that voice, Dx or keybind, with or without shortcuts using a tracking vairiable in Voice Attack and a couple of Loops

 

Of course now with the latest sticky tabs to go straight to a page it's no longer so much of an issue. However even using these, unless your Marvo the memory man, it could be tricky. For instance adding a sticky to go to a specific airbase/arfield's charts when all of them were sitickied, would mean having to remember what every colour represented, that's more than my old brain could handle. 

[Bailey]

Random fact, the sticky tabs have been around for years.
The fact that they were not clickable meant that you had to memorize more keybinds to bring up the page. Due to the fact that most ppl didn't know about or use this feature, you can see how popular it was... 

[TWC_SLAG]

So, the answer is "No". Bummer.

 

thanks,