Majesco Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) I've read the LockOn manual but i do not understand this passge (can't imagine) Su-27 BVR - Scan mode: "The expected target aspect hemisphere is controlled with the [Win-I] key. АВТ (ILV) mode can be used if the target aspect is unknown. The expected target aspect determines the pulse repetition frequency (PRF) to be used by the fighter radar in search mode. High PRF (HPRF), which provides the longest detection range against approaching forward-hemisphere targets, is indicated by ППС (HI), whereas medium PRF (MPRF) for receding rear-hemisphere targets is indicated by ЗПС (MED). In АВТ (ILV) mode, high and medium PRFs are interleaved on alternate bars of the radar scan pattern. This provides all-aspect target detection at the expense of a 25% reduction in maximum range" What's "the expected target aspect hemisphere" or "expected target range" ? ILV = Interleave mode ? I don't understand these 2 phrases "against approaching forward-hemisphere targets" and "receding rear-hemisphere targets". Could anybody explain me this problem by drawing a diagram or smth like that ? Thx Edited June 10, 2008 by Majesco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 approaching forward-hemisphere targets You're head to head with your bandit. receding rear-hemisphere targets You're looking at your target's tailpipe, and what's more, he's actually getting away. And yes, ILV=Interleave (they do part HI, part MED PRF, switched automatically) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majesco Posted June 10, 2008 Author Share Posted June 10, 2008 Thank you, GGTharos so, what about the "expected target range (expected target aspect hemisphere)" ? can you explain more ? is maximum expected target range just 150km only ? / my Eng is not good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) Expected range is a parameter you feed into the radar to control elevation. As you know, you can command elevation of the radar at 1km increments relative to your altitude. If you set expected range at 10km, the angle required to cover 1km up/down is MUCH larger than it is at 100km. It's not terribly useful in LO because the radars always use 4 bars to scan (meaning the scan plenty of altitude ... the rule of thumb for LO radars is, at least with the F-15, you'll scan 1000' of altitude per nm of range ... ie. your vertical scan space at 20nm is 20000' ... assuming I recall this correctly.) For Russian birds, I think you'd be looking at something around 1.7km altitude per 10km distance. Don't take my word for this, my math might be off here ... Edited June 10, 2008 by GGTharos [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedTiger Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 GG is right. A give-away about what this does (and I figured out what it did) is the reading at the left of the HUD. Notice how at 10km expected range one notch up makes the bar jump up much farther than say, 100km. The place I find this to be crucial is between 50km and 20km, the edge of BVR and WVR. I was surprised how much easier I could reaquire a bandit after understanding how to make use of the expected range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boberro Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Hmmm maybe I will use it, but is there any method to set it always on example 30 km? When I "exit" from BVR mode it resets to 10 and again I have to set 30 km :) Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedTiger Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) I don't think so. The best thing to do is put it on your HOTAS or Joystick. I have that function as well as the keys for increasing and decreasing radar range mapped on a 4-way hat on my throttle. I'd be willing to bet that its the single most under-used and under-appreciated function those radars have. Its all just extra workload the pilot shouldn't have to do, but if you wanna use the radar right, you have to. :) While I'm at it, I have a question. Can anyone confirm that you will burn through the bandit's jamming sooner if you use the proper PRF setting? It seems that way to me. If I turn towards the bandit, using the SPO, and switch to Hi PRF, I swear that I burn through sooner than I would using Ilv or Med. Edited June 10, 2008 by RedTiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-konkussion Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 It's quite simple, actually. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monotwix Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 It's quite simple, actually. Worth trying... Can it fire through a canopy though? I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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