Cmptohocah Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 I had a weird situation the other day: had a hostile locked up with both my EOS and radar, but I never received any speed, aspect nor altitude of the target. On the screenshot you can see that I had LA for my R-27ER which did go off eventually and hit the target. Anyone has an idea on what's happening here? Cmptohocah=CMPTOHOCAH
GGTharos Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 No ... can you try and do an experiment to reproduce? Was the EOS turned on by you on purpose? This may have to do with which sensor is in priority. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Cmptohocah Posted January 19, 2021 Author Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GGTharos said: No ... can you try and do an experiment to reproduce? Was the EOS turned on by you on purpose? This may have to do with which sensor is in priority. To be honest it was in heat of the battle, so I can't remember really. Knowing my habits, it was probably a case of radar lock being broken and EOS taking over automatically. I do remember that the LA was not flashing as it does when the target is locked by EOS only. The missile guided to target with the HUD looking the same as in the screenshot. Edited January 19, 2021 by Cmptohocah Cmptohocah=CMPTOHOCAH
GGTharos Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) It may be an odd bug. It's possible for the EOS to not give you this sort of information past a certain range (And it looks like your target is far enough for that but then, you shouldn't be getting any range either) but I don't know if the radar is supposed to take over again after the EOS has taken over for it. Edited January 19, 2021 by GGTharos [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
BlackPixxel Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 This is perfectly normal. You only get the additional information in BVR mode. In all the close combat modes, the HUD is more minimalistic.
GGTharos Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 So this is CAC declutter? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Ironhand Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 Except he’s not in a CAC mode... YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
BlackPixxel Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 He is in close combat mode, HUD says BVB in the bottom left. BVR mode would be DVB.
Cmptohocah Posted January 19, 2021 Author Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, BlackPixxel said: This is perfectly normal. You only get the additional information in BVR mode. In all the close combat modes, the HUD is more minimalistic. Close Combat Mode at 20km? That is interesting indeed. Why would it switch to this mode? I picked the target up in BVR mode. I was also under the impression that Close Combat Mode in DCS has a range limit of 10km. Edited January 20, 2021 by Cmptohocah Cmptohocah=CMPTOHOCAH
BlackPixxel Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) If the target was locked in BVR mode, then this is indeed a bug. Close combat does not lock targets beyond 10 km with radar, but with EO it can lock further if the heat signature is strong enough. Edited January 19, 2021 by BlackPixxel
Ironhand Posted January 19, 2021 Posted January 19, 2021 53 minutes ago, BlackPixxel said: He is in close combat mode, HUD says BVB in the bottom left. BVR mode would be DVB. Yes. It was a case of seeing what I expected to see, rather than seeing what was there. I read the first letter as a Cyrillic “D”. YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
Cmptohocah Posted January 20, 2021 Author Posted January 20, 2021 9 hours ago, BlackPixxel said: If the target was locked in BVR mode, then this is indeed a bug. Close combat does not lock targets beyond 10 km with radar, but with EO it can lock further if the heat signature is strong enough. Could it be that after loosing the target in radar BVR mode and EOS taking over, the radar just defaults back to CCM? Cmptohocah=CMPTOHOCAH
Ironhand Posted January 20, 2021 Posted January 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Cmptohocah said: Could it be that after loosing the target in radar BVR mode and EOS taking over, the radar just defaults back to CCM? Just experimented and that's not what happened in my test. Locked the target in BVR closed to within 10 km as target moved into the notch. EOS took over as primary with Radar secondary and the mode remained BVR. Once the target exited the notch, I got the launch cue. At no time did I not have target information on the HUD after radar reaquired. YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
Cmptohocah Posted January 21, 2021 Author Posted January 21, 2021 21 hours ago, Ironhand said: Just experimented and that's not what happened in my test. Locked the target in BVR closed to within 10 km as target moved into the notch. EOS took over as primary with Radar secondary and the mode remained BVR. Once the target exited the notch, I got the launch cue. At no time did I not have target information on the HUD after radar reaquired. My notch happened beyond 10km. Maybe that has something to do with it? Cmptohocah=CMPTOHOCAH
Ironhand Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 6 hours ago, Cmptohocah said: My notch happened beyond 10km. Maybe that has something to do with it? I don't think so. I haven't been able to replicate it. The only way I can drop into BVB is to actively select it. But that switches the selected missile to an IR type and I, then, have to reselect the R-27ER. My guess is that what happened was just an anomoly of some sort, unless you accidentally switched from BVR to CAC. YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
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