Blaze1 Posted July 4, 2008 Posted July 4, 2008 Hello Firstly I'd just like to say how incredibly impressed I am with the DCS team. I haven't really been following activities in the sim world for a few years so Black Shark is a huge surprise to me. I had actually seen info about Black Shark at Frugalsworlds home page, however I didn't pay much attention to it. Funnily enough I was searching on Youtube for Fighter OPS vids when I saw this. I was and am completely blown away by the level of detail involved in this simulation,:eek: it seems to be way ahead of anything else out there (Fighter OPS is aiming for similar fidelity). It absolutely fantastic to see a sim developer raising the bar and the softly softly approach Eagle Dynamics are apparently taking appaers to be working well. DSC will model a great proportion of the systems on the Ka-50 helicopter and many systems have built in tests associated with them. Considering it is common to run tests prior to flight, I was wondering if these sytems could fail before flight. The ABRIS BIT lists the following parameters when being tested, memory, CPU, flash etc, can these individual components fail? Can the analogue cockpit instruments e.g ADI, HSI fail. Pitot heating is an option for selection in the cockpit, will there be conditions where this is necessary? Thanks Blaze1
sobek Posted July 4, 2008 Posted July 4, 2008 DSC will model a great proportion of the systems on the Ka-50 helicopter and many systems have built in tests associated with them. Considering it is common to run tests prior to flight, I was wondering if these sytems could fail before flight. The ABRIS BIT lists the following parameters when being tested, memory, CPU, flash etc, can these individual components fail? Can the analogue cockpit instruments e.g ADI, HSI fail. Pitot heating is an option for selection in the cockpit, will there be conditions where this is necessary? Blaze1 As for the Instruments failing prior to flight, this sparked a lenghty discussion in the forum, which you might want to look into. The devs stated that it wont be modelled (because it does not add to immersion/gameplay). The faqs say engine icing is modelled, so pitot icing may be modelled as well. AFAIK there arent a lot of switches in that cockpit that arent necessary for gameplay. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Blaze1 Posted July 4, 2008 Author Posted July 4, 2008 As for the Instruments failing prior to flight, this sparked a lenghty discussion in the forum, which you might want to look into. The devs stated that it wont be modelled (because it does not add to immersion/gameplay). The faqs say engine icing is modelled, so pitot icing may be modelled as well. AFAIK there arent a lot of switches in that cockpit that arent necessary for gameplay. Hi sobek So the instrument tests e.g for the ADI don't really serve much purpose? Blaze1
nemises Posted July 4, 2008 Posted July 4, 2008 I guess a lot of stuff is modelled for completeness and immersion, but that might not directly effect gameplay. I think thats the right route to take.
GGTharos Posted July 4, 2008 Posted July 4, 2008 And, should pre-flight failures really be desireable, the route to make them happen is there ... however - I personally don't see the value of pre-flight failures (barring engine overtemps etc. from poor engine starts) as anything more than a simple curiosity. Sure, a mission where stuff breaks mightbe neat, but I bet most people wouldn't bother with this feature. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
CAT_101st Posted July 5, 2008 Posted July 5, 2008 Just think of it as you have the worlds best ground crew. :thumbup: they find all the problems and have thim fixed befor you take off. Home built PC Win 10 Pro 64bit, MB ASUS Z170 WS, 6700K, EVGA 1080Ti Hybrid, 32GB DDR4 3200, Thermaltake 120x360 RAD, Custom built A-10C sim pit, TM WARTHOG HOTAS, Cougar MFD's, 3D printed UFC and Saitek rudders. HTC VIVE VR. https://digitalcombatmercenaries.enjin.com/
Vekkinho Posted July 5, 2008 Posted July 5, 2008 (edited) ...and aircraft having preflight failures usually stay grounded, pilots switch to another functional airframe! But if you really want things to go wrong you can always set failures of various sytems in failures editor to start at 00:00 within 00:00 with probability of 100%. That's also available in LOFC-1.12! Edited July 5, 2008 by Vekkinho [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Blaze1 Posted July 5, 2008 Author Posted July 5, 2008 Thanks for the replies everyone. nemises you bring up a very good point. Perhaps if pre-flight equipment failures are ones which can be solved reasonably quickly, with little or no delay (maybe depending on the time the player steps to the aircraft?), this would encourage correct pre-flight procedures. Anyway I'm sure whatever the DCS team decides to do, Black Shark will be an incredible hit and a huge achievement. Cheers Blaze1
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