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When dispensing a CMS program containing only chaff, I still get a "CHAFF FLARE" announcement from the VMS.  Is this correct behaviour or should the VMS only announce the type of countermeasure being dispensed?

 

I noticed the same in Wags' HARM tutorial video, and thought it strange he'd be popping flares during an attack at that range.

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Yes, its normal behaviour. The VMS doesn't know which countermeasures are dispensed, only that the pilot gave a consent to release.

 

Same as with countermeasures getting to the point of running out, VMS will say "Chaff Flare Low" and then "Chaff Flare Out". Its up to the pilot to determine which one of them is

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Thanks Falconeer.  Though it does seem strange to me that the VMS would not be programmed to differentiate between which types are being dispensed.  

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Well like I said before, the VMS doesn't know which countermeasures are dispensed, only that they are being dispensed.

There is no direct signal to the VMS for that. 

 

And besides that, most countermeasures programs are a mix between chaff and flare

         Planes:                                      Choppers:                                       Maps:

  • Flaming Cliffs 3                      Black Shark 2                                 Syria
  • A-10C Tank killer 2                Black Shark 3                                 Persian Gulf
  • F/A18C Hornet                       AH-64 Apache                               Mariana's
  • F-16C Viper                                                                                    Afghanistan
  • F-15E Strike Eagle                                                                         Kola Peninsula
  • Mirage 2000C
  • AJS-37 Viggen
  • JF-17 Thunder
  • F-14 Tomcat
  • F-4E Phantom
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4 hours ago, Falconeer said:

 

And besides that, most countermeasures programs are a mix between chaff and flare


Are they? That seems wasteful. Surely if you are beaming a SARH/ARH or older radar SAM you wouldn’t want to be pumping out flares.  Obviously some countermeasures programs should be mixed In anticipation of a launch during the final phase of a pop-up attack for example, but that’s why there are five, and why they are customised to the mission profile and expected threat.  I know there’s always the chance you are taken by surprise which is why there is the panic dispense slap switch, but as they say, you should never put the aircraft somewhere you didn’t put your brain five minutes earlier.

 

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