VAICOM not responding to most of my supercarrier ATC calls

[sirrah]

Not sure if I'm doing something wrong here, or if I'm overlooking something maybe, but when contacting Supercarrier ATC, most of my calls do not seem to be recognized within DCS.

 

My "inbound" call is working - it results in me getting directions for the Marshal stack.

 

But none of the other ATC calls seem to be received:

Established - no response

Commencing - no response

Check in - no response

Platform - no response

Ball - no response

 

I triple checked my radio frequency and correct mic switch (but if that were to be wrong, my inbound call also wouldn't be recognized, so that can't be the issue here)

 

I do however hear the small beep sound from VAICOM (the acknowledge beep for receiving a correct audio input)

Also, I tested my voice calls in the VAICOM "editor keywords" tab and all my calls are recognized for 95%

 

 

I'm using VAICOM version 2.5.24.0 (release)

I'm on latest DCS OB version

 

Aside from the Supercarrier comms, VAICOM is working just fine. But one of the main advantages of VAICOM should be voice activated Supercarrier comms, so it's really annoying this specific part ain't working..

 

Any help would be very much appreciated

[hornblower793]

Not sure if I'm doing something wrong here, or if I'm overlooking something maybe, but when contacting Supercarrier ATC, most of my calls do not seem to be recognized within DCS.
 
My "inbound" call is working - it results in me getting directions for the Marshal stack.
 
But none of the other ATC calls seem to be received:
Established - no response
Commencing - no response
Check in - no response
Platform - no response
Ball - no response
 
I triple checked my radio frequency and correct mic switch (but if that were to be wrong, my inbound call also wouldn't be recognized, so that can't be the issue here)
 
I do however hear the small beep sound from VAICOM (the acknowledge beep for receiving a correct audio input)
Also, I tested my voice calls in the VAICOM "editor keywords" tab and all my calls are recognized for 95%
 
 
I'm using VAICOM version 2.5.24.0 (release)
I'm on latest DCS OB version
 
Aside from the Supercarrier comms, VAICOM is working just fine. But one of the main advantages of VAICOM should be voice activated Supercarrier comms, so it's really annoying this specific part ain't working..
 
Any help would be very much appreciated

What does the VA log window say? I suspect you have been answered by another ship as they are all on the same frequency. Try using Marking Moms as your initial call rather than inbound, or use the name of the carrier...inbound

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[Drac]

5 hours ago, sirrah said:

Not sure if I'm doing something wrong here, or if I'm overlooking something maybe, but when contacting Supercarrier ATC, most of my calls do not seem to be recognized within DCS.

 

My "inbound" call is working - it results in me getting directions for the Marshal stack.

 

But none of the other ATC calls seem to be received:

Established - no response

Commencing - no response

Check in - no response

Platform - no response

Ball - no response

 

I triple checked my radio frequency and correct mic switch (but if that were to be wrong, my inbound call also wouldn't be recognized, so that can't be the issue here)

 

I do however hear the small beep sound from VAICOM (the acknowledge beep for receiving a correct audio input)

Also, I tested my voice calls in the VAICOM "editor keywords" tab and all my calls are recognized for 95%

 

 

I'm using VAICOM version 2.5.24.0 (release)

I'm on latest DCS OB version

 

Aside from the Supercarrier comms, VAICOM is working just fine. But one of the main advantages of VAICOM should be voice activated Supercarrier comms, so it's really annoying this specific part ain't working..

 

Any help would be very much appreciated

Instead of "Ball", try "Hornet Ball".

[sirrah]

7 hours ago, hornblower793 said:

What does the VA log window say? I suspect you have been answered by another ship as they are all on the same frequency. Try using Marking Moms as your initial call rather than inbound, or use the name of the carrier...inbound

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It was the first mission of the new Operation Pontus Campaign, so I'm pretty sure there's only one Supercarrier in there.

 

But I'll check the log next time and use the "marking moms" callout

 

 

7 hours ago, Drac said:

Instead of "Ball", try "Hornet Ball".

Will do.. but still, that doesn't explain why my other callouts are not received 

[hornblower793]

Will do.. but still, that doesn't explain why my other callouts are not received 

It is not just the supercarrier - unless they have been explicitly set otherwise, all ships in the escort group will have the same frequency and the closest one to you will respond

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[sirrah]

7 hours ago, hornblower793 said:

It is not just the supercarrier - unless they have been explicitly set otherwise, all ships in the escort group will have the same frequency and the closest one to you will respond

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Thanks, I understand how this might cause the issue. But how do I ensure that I'm calling out to the carrier then? (instead of one of the other ships)

 

 

I tried saying "marking moms" and even though my voice command was detected in VAICOM (with confidence 95%), ATC didn't reply.

 

I also tried: "Roosevelt Inbound" and that way ATC did reply with marshal instructions, although when checking the VA log, I saw that VA recognized this as two separate voice commands: "Roosevelt"  and "Inbound", so it just responded to the latter.. resulting again in my "Commencing" call being recognized by VAICOM, but I don't get an ATC response..

 

Also, after my inbound call, when opening the radio menu, I'm in the carrier ATC menu, seeing all correct options (in this case for a CASE III):

F1. abort inbound

F2. Established

F3. Commencing

F4. Request azimuth

 

and when I use the regular radio menu, all ATC works just fine all the way to the carrier...

 

It's just not responding to my voice

 

I really wish this would work, as I just purchased Operation Pontus and without this VAICOM functionality I'm missing out on a better experience

 

 

Edit:

I just tested the following:

 

Created a mission with just one Supercarrier, one F-18 (player) and made sure to set both to the same freq.

 

When in the mission, my "inbound" call works again, but no response on my "see you at 10"....

 

Switched freq to a nearby airfield and all my calls were responded to like normal...

 

I also quit all programs, deleted the export.lua file and restarted everything. But no results..

 

(Fwiw, I'm pretty sure that at least my "see you at 10" worked a few weeks ago)

 

 

 

Edited January 31, 2021 by sirrah

[hornblower793]

Thanks, I understand how this might cause the issue. But how do I ensure that I'm calling out to the carrier then? (instead of one of the other ships)
 
 
I tried saying "marking moms" and even though my voice command was detected in VAICOM (with confidence 95%), ATC didn't reply.
 
I also tried: "Roosevelt Inbound" and that way ATC did reply with marshal instructions, although when checking the VA log, I saw that VA recognized this as two separate voice commands: "Roosevelt"  and "Inbound", so it just responded to the latter.. resulting again in my "Commencing" call being recognized by VAICOM, but I don't get an ATC response..
 
 
Also, after my inbound call, when opening the radio menu, I'm in the carrier ATC menu, seeing all correct options (in this case for a CASE III):
F1. abort inbound
F2. Established
F3. Commencing
F4. Request azimuth
 
and when I use the regular radio menu, all ATC works just fine all the way to the carrier...
 
It's just not responding to my voice
 
I really wish this would work, as I just purchased Operation Pontus and without this VAICOM functionality I'm missing out on a better experience

If you go into the VA profile list of commands (the pencil icon), is Marking Moms in the list of commands?

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[sirrah]

17 hours ago, hornblower793 said:

If you go into the VA profile list of commands (the pencil icon), is Marking Moms in the list of commands?

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Do you mean this list?

 

If so, yes, I checked and "marking moms" is in there

[sirrah]

Anyone?

 

I pretty much tried all combinations I could think off:

• Roosevelt, marking moms  -> no response from atc
• Roosevelt -> small VA/VAICOM recognition beep -> no response from atc
• Marking moms -> small VA/VAICOM recognition beep -> no response from atc
• Inbound -> small VA/VAICOM recognition beep -> response from atc, but after getting instructions no response to any of my calls.....

 

This is starting to get very frustrating and annoying....

 

 

Literally all my other calls are received and responded to (my flight/wingman, tankers, airfields, jtac).. Only and specifically my Supercarrier calls (except for inbound) are not received..

 

 

EDIT:

I did just see this in my VA log:

 

Could this be the problem?

And if so, how can I solve this?

In the VAICOM Editor keyword test, the words "marking moms"  and "Roosevelt" individually, are recognized with 95%, but when saying "Roosevelt marking moms" it just recognizes Roosevelt and directly after that I get the "What's that?" message

Edited February 1, 2021 by sirrah

[Drac]

1 hour ago, sirrah said:

Anyone?

 

I pretty much tried all combinations I could think off:

• Roosevelt, marking moms  -> no response from atc
• Roosevelt -> small VA/VAICOM recognition beep -> no response from atc
• Marking moms -> small VA/VAICOM recognition beep -> no response from atc
• Inbound -> small VA/VAICOM recognition beep -> response from atc, but after getting instructions no response to any of my calls.....

 

This is starting to get very frustrating and annoying....

 

 

Literally all my other calls are received and responded to (my flight/wingman, tankers, airfields, jtac).. Only and specifically my Supercarrier calls (except for inbound) are not received..

 

 

EDIT:

I did just see this in my VA log:

 

Could this be the problem?

And if so, how can I solve this?

In the VAICOM Editor keyword test, the words "marking moms"  and "Roosevelt" individually, are recognized with 95%, but when saying "Roosevelt marking moms" it just recognizes Roosevelt and directly after that I get the "What's that?" message

 

Try "Roosevelt...Inbound".  The "..." represents a slight pause.  See if that works.

[sirrah]

2 minutes ago, Drac said:

Try "Roosevelt...Inbound".  The "..." represents a slight pause.  See if that works.

Thanks, but yes, I already tried that combination as well (forgot to mention that) - no response 

[Hotstepper]

Hi,

 

are your commands correct recognized?
Can you see something like this in the VoiceAttack Log:

 

[sirrah]

7 minutes ago, Hotstepper said:

Hi,

 

are your commands correct recognized?
Can you see something like this in the VoiceAttack Log:
 

 

Yes they are:

 

 

[Drac]

52 minutes ago, sirrah said:

 

Yes they are:

 

 

Your log looks different. When you first start VA, and then speak your commands, what does it say.  Your log should look similar to Hotstepper.

[hornblower793]

Anyone?
 
I pretty much tried all combinations I could think off:

• Roosevelt, marking moms  -> no response from atc
• Roosevelt -> small VA/VAICOM recognition beep -> no response from atc
• Marking moms -> small VA/VAICOM recognition beep -> no response from atc
• Inbound -> small VA/VAICOM recognition beep -> response from atc, but after getting instructions no response to any of my calls.....

 
This is starting to get very frustrating and annoying....
 
 
Literally all my other calls are received and responded to (my flight/wingman, tankers, airfields, jtac).. Only and specifically my Supercarrier calls (except for inbound) are not received..
 
 
EDIT:
I did just see this in my VA log:

 
Could this be the problem?
And if so, how can I solve this?
In the VAICOM Editor keyword test, the words "marking moms"  and "Roosevelt" individually, are recognized with 95%, but when saying "Roosevelt marking moms" it just recognizes Roosevelt and directly after that I get the "What's that?" message

You should just need to say Marking Moms without the carrier name first. If it is still not recognising it please could you post the log file here (not the screen shot) so we can see if there are any clues in it

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[sirrah]

11 hours ago, hornblower793 said:

You should just need to say Marking Moms without the carrier name first. If it is still not recognising it please could you post the log file here (not the screen shot) so we can see if there are any clues in it

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Sorry, I'm a real Voiceattack noob. Could you please point out where I can find the VA log file?

 

Anyways... I think I found the problem... and, as usual with newcomers like me, the solution is very simple and straightforward...

 

In the VA log, I see now, that each time I say "marking moms", VA log says: "Extended command set is currently disabled in preferences."

I found this setting and its tooltip says I need the VAICOM Realistic ATC extension (which I haven't purchased yet, because I didn't know I needed it)...... 

 

 

In my defence:

On the VAICOM licenses page, it says this:

 

VAICOM PRO plugin license (separate purchase)

Obtain your personal PRO license key to unlock the full featureset of the VAICOM PRO for DCS World plugin. This license provides you with access to all modules, the extended commands set and the complete range of available options and settings. This license does not include plugin extensions.

After purchase you will be automatically redirected to download the installation files.

Price: € 8,50

 

 

I purchased this and the kneeboard extension, thinking that would suffice, but apparently we need to buy a separate licence for the Supercarrier module. All fine by me, but it could be stated a bit more explicit in the above text.

 

 

I'll purchase the Realistic ATC extension and report back here as soon as I get the chance to test it, to confirm if this solved my issue.

 

Edited February 2, 2021 by sirrah

[hornblower793]

 
 
Sorry, I'm a real Voiceattack noob. Could you please point out where I can find the VA log file?
 
Anyways... I think I found the problem... and, as usual with newcomers like me, the solution is very simple and straightforward...
 
In the VA log, I see now, that each time I say "marking moms", VA log says: "Extended command set is currently disabled in preferences."

I found this setting and its tooltip says I need the VAICOM Realistic ATC extension (which I haven't purchased yet, because I didn't know I needed it)...... 
 
 
In my defence:
On the VAICOM licenses page, it says this:
 

VAICOM PRO plugin license (separate purchase)

Obtain your personal PRO license key to unlock the full featureset of the VAICOM PRO for DCS World plugin. This license provides you with access to all modules, the extended commands set and the complete range of available options and settings. This license does not include plugin extensions.

After purchase you will be automatically redirected to download the installation files.

Price: € 8,50  
 
I purchased this and the kneeboard extension, thinking that would suffice, but apparently we need to buy a separate licence for the Supercarrier module. All fine by me, but it could be stated a bit more explicit in the above text.
 
 
I'll purchase the Realistic ATC extension and report back here as soon as I get the chance to test it, to confirm if this solved my issue.
 

That will definitely help and I can see why that wording is ambiguous. I will drop@Hollywood_315 an email to see if that wording can be changed (I am just a user like you)

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[sirrah]

Just to confirm:

 

Just tested again (after purchasing the ATC extension) and everything works now 

 

 

Thanks for trying to help out guys