MiG-31 Full Mission Simulator

[Xilon_x]

 

https://dinamika-avia.com/product/flight/kompleksnyy-trenazher-ekipazha-samoleta-mig-31/

 

 

[Berserk]

Beautifull typical Soviet cockpit. Pilot's part looks like MiG-21/MiG-23/MiG-25 for easy transition. Weapon officer's part looks like half Tomcat RIO cockpit & half MiG-21.

[Dudikoff]

Interesting that it's the standard MiG-31 rather than the modernized BM. 

 

They have a bunch of other simulators as well on the webpage. Too bad they didn't cooperate with ED and then ideally letting them release a few consumer level modules.

[Knock-Knock]

Very cool.

The Mi-24P sim would be fitting.

Edited March 4, 2021 by Knock-Knock

[duc_ttm]

Hi everybody.

I am very curious about an instrument of MiG-31. That is the one under the question mark.

I think that it is the pressure altimeter, but in a traditional Soviet cockpit, it would be the one on the left, under the air speed indicator.

Can anyone tell me what is it, or why it needs so many pressure altimeters?

Edited February 20, 2023 by duc_ttm
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[Dragon1-1]

Main and backup, presumably. Western aircraft of the era often had two, as well. The main one would be tied to the computer, and the backup would be completely independent mechanical device, of a sort that you see in GA aircraft, directly connected to a pitot tube. If the fancy one fails, you lose autopilot and HUD altimeter, but still can read the backup altitude.

[duc_ttm]

You are right, thank you.

I can see both of them in MiG-25 cockpit layout with annnotates, and it might be the same on MiG-31.

I only wonder why I can't see the same thing on MiG-29 or Sukhoi's jets.

 

[Dragon1-1]

Not every aircraft has two. US aircraft often have only one dial with two modes, electric and pneumatic. MiG-29 is a lightweight day fighter, so maybe they thought redundancy was not worth the price in this case. Sukhoi might simply have a different design philosophy. Technically, an altimeter is not particularly critical if you're flying VFR. It might also have something to do with the high altitude nature of the MiG-25 and -31. 

[Seaeagle]

7 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

It might also have something to do with the high altitude nature of the MiG-25 and -31. 

I was thinking that too.

Look at the inner scale of each altimeter - the one to the left counts 1000 meters in increments  of 5(from 5 to 25) while the one to the right counts them in increments of 2(2 to 18). 

[Dragon1-1]

That's just a different instrument design. You don't want your backup to be identical to your main, just in case there's, say, a manufacturing defect. Soviets used common instruments in all their aircraft to simplify logistics, so a problem with one production line would have far ranging consequences.

[Seaeagle]

11 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

That's just a different instrument design. You don't want your backup to be identical to your main, just in case there's, say, a manufacturing defect. Soviets used common instruments in all their aircraft to simplify logistics, so a problem with one production line would have far ranging consequences.

I don't think this is merely a case of back-up.

The service ceiling of the MiG-31 is some 25000 m - one of the pressure altimeters cannot count that high, while the other can but the readout is not as clear and intuitive. I.e. at a quick glance you get a figure e.g. somewhere between 10 an 15000 m, which may be fine "high up", but not good enough at lower altitudes.