track clip pro verses vector ?

[littlejohn1959]

greetings , i recently purchased trackir4 pro with the vector clip .

i am considering purchaseing the track clip pro add on .

will i see much of a difference?

at present , there is a window in my room here which gives alot of lite .

sometimes it effects the trackir . will this happen with the track clip pro?

i guess the bottom line is this ,,, is it worth the $30.00 investment?

i value your opinion .

thanks for reading ,

cheers .

[Kuky]

I have Vector clip myself and I think I would be right to say doesn't matter if you change to Clip Pro if the light that's interfering is to the back of your head (in FoV of TrackIR itself) you shouldn't see any improvement (because the light coming through the window will still interfere)

 

PS: I had same problem and what I did was face my desk facing the window and my chair facing the wall (no light source behind me) and I no longer have interference issue

[littlejohn1959]

I have Vector clip myself and I think I would be right to say doesn't matter if you change to Clip Pro if the light that's interfering is to the back of your head (in FoV of TrackIR itself) you shouldn't see any improvement (because the light coming through the window will still interfere)

 

PS: I had same problem and what I did was face my desk facing the window and my chair facing the wall (no light source behind me) and I no longer have interference issue

 

thanks kuky ,

this room is kind of small and my desk is a corner style desk . the window is a fair size . the sun pours in here at times , thus effecting the track .

i think i may have to convince my misses to sew me a heavy set of curtians . ha ha .

is the response time the same with both units i wonder ?

its still new to me .i need to play with it some more .

do you use the factory defaults or did you edit the unit in some ways?

much thanks for your input kuky mate .

cheers .

[hitman]

I wouldnt waste time on a track clip pro, it performs just as well as the clip that comes with the TIR. The only difference is that it is a little bit more trackable. Ill be honest though, if I had the money at the time I bought mine, I would have got it. Now the TIRs have dropped in price...I might get one just for shiats and giggles.

[littlejohn1959]

I wouldnt waste time on a track clip pro, it performs just as well as the clip that comes with the TIR. The only difference is that it is a little bit more trackable. Ill be honest though, if I had the money at the time I bought mine, I would have got it. Now the TIRs have dropped in price...I might get one just for shiats and giggles.

 

i kind of rushed it really . i should have gotten the track clip pro from the getgo . its another bell or whistle i guess . ha ha . i think ill get it anyways . it might even stop the misses from calling me a martian . ha ha .

at 49 , you think id be all grown up by now ,:joystick:.

NOT .:lol: ha ha .

thanks hitman ,

cheers mate .

[hitman]

it might even stop the misses from calling me a martian

Dont count on it...:music_whistling:

[Kuky]

Response rate is actually detection time in seconds by the TrackIR unit itself... since I don't have one I can't really confirm (little google might actually help if someone realyl wants to know) but I believe difference between the Vector Clip and Clip Pro is vector is used to reflect IR wavelength from the TrackIR unit back, where as Clip Pro has IR wavelength transmiting itself... so I'd assume it would have bit better tracking ability when you slew the head to the sides (Vector Clip looses but of tracking when you do this, if you move the hean too much sideways)

 

And I do edit the profiles to my liking... there are not many I have (only for games I play which are LockOn and bit of ArmA right now) you set it by default.. then tweak one axis at time until you feel natural with movement.

[slug88]

The difference in time delay between an IR emitter and IR reflector would be about three billionths of a second (1 meter divided by the speed of light), so, going with the Clip Pro won't noticeably affect the response rate. Unless you're really, really perceptive :).

[hitman]

Yes...what color is red anyways?

430THz.

[littlejohn1959]

Response rate is actually detection time in seconds by the TrackIR unit itself... since I don't have one I can't really confirm (little google might actually help if someone realyl wants to know) but I believe difference between the Vector Clip and Clip Pro is vector is used to reflect IR wavelength from the TrackIR unit back, where as Clip Pro has IR wavelength transmiting itself... so I'd assume it would have bit better tracking ability when you slew the head to the sides (Vector Clip looses but of tracking when you do this, if you move the hean too much sideways)

 

And I do edit the profiles to my liking... there are not many I have (only for games I play which are LockOn and bit of ArmA right now) you set it by default.. then tweak one axis at time until you feel natural with movement.

 

sounds great kuky. ill give it a go with the tweaking . i think you have to spend a bit of time tweaking this game if you want to get the most out of it . theres many a post about graphic tweaking [you posted lots ] that i am experementing with for my 8800gt . the more time i spend reading and tweaking , the better the game runs and looks . also its fun to tweak things up a bit .

you seem to have ALOT of knowledge .

i guess the more you tweak , the more you learn .

much thanks for your replies here kuky mate .

cheers again .

[RedTiger]

I can tell you this much -- I do not have the clip; I wear the included metal thing on a baseball cap and look like a dork. However, I have zero problems with tracking and certainly not enough to pay $30.00 + cost of battery replacements to warrent a clip.

[littlejohn1959]

I can tell you this much -- I do not have the clip; I wear the included metal thing on a baseball cap and look like a dork. However, I have zero problems with tracking and certainly not enough to pay $30.00 + cost of battery replacements to warrent a clip.

 

greetings ,

batteries? its usb , so ive read .

i could be wrong though .

as for the dork thing , it applies to me , with or without it , ha ha ..

its just something else to play with , im thinking , :joystick:.

it will be fine . :pilotfly:.

cheers mate .

[Axion]

The Pro Clip is definitely USB powered, but you will still get the light filtering issues. The response times seem very similar to me, but I have mainly used the Pro Clip. The benefits of the Pro Clip is that it attaches to you headset (an essential requirement in my house :)) and therefore you may look slightly less martianesque:smilewink: On the down side; you have an extra cable running from the headset. I have also experienced the pivot arm of the Pro Clip 'popping out' occasionally.

Edited August 27, 2008 by Axion

[RedTiger]

The Pro Clip is definitely USB powered, but you will still get the light filtering issues. The response times seem very similar to me, but I have mainly used the Pro Clip. The benefits of the Pro Clip is that it attaches to you headset (an essential requirement in my house :)) and therefore you may look slightly less martianesque:smilewink: On the down side; you have an extra cable running from the headset. I have also experienced the pivot arm of the Pro Clip 'popping out' occasionally.

 

USB powered!? Jesus tap dancing Christ, what do they think I just crap USB ports? :eek: :D

 

/JK. I guess its supposed its supposed to plug into the front port next to your gaming headset. USB ports are a commodity, however, and it took me a while to find a decent powered USB hub that I liked. I'd be ticked off if I had to make room just for that thing.

[Axion]

USB powered!? Jesus tap dancing Christ, what do they think I just crap USB ports? :eek: :D

 

/JK. I guess its supposed its supposed to plug into the front port next to your gaming headset. USB ports are a commodity, however, and it took me a while to find a decent powered USB hub that I liked. I'd be ticked off if I had to make room just for that thing.

 

Nah! it comes installed with a USB splitter to allow you to plug in your TIR :thumbup:

Edited August 27, 2008 by Axion

[littlejohn1959]

Nah! it comes installed with a USB splitter to allow you to plug in your TIR :thumbup:

 

sounds great . i read things right then .

man , batteries would have been a no no for me .

30 bucks is not a great waste reguardless . i often wasted more . ha ha .

its 25 bucks here for a 12 pak of beers . ha ha .

man , how can they sell that beer so cheap i wonder ?ha ha .

cheers guys .

thanks for the input .:thumbup:

[littlejohn1959]

The Pro Clip is definitely USB powered, but you will still get the light filtering issues. The response times seem very similar to me, but I have mainly used the Pro Clip. The benefits of the Pro Clip is that it attaches to you headset (an essential requirement in my house :)) and therefore you may look slightly less martianesque:smilewink: On the down side; you have an extra cable running from the headset. I have also experienced the pivot arm of the Pro Clip 'popping out' occasionally.

 

i wonder if i loosely'' braded '' both cables together . then used heat shrink tape .

it would be a neater job , think?

it would stiffin it up a bit , and may help with the '' popping out issue.

i have my headset plugged into the header on the top of my case . there is a usb plug right next to it .

is it neccasary to have the track clip pro and track ir plugged together , i wonder?

ill have to see if i can mod those cables some when i gets the clip in my hands , for sure .

cheers again .

[hitman]

They work hand in hand yes, but the trackir works separately from the track clip. Matter of fact, you can probably light 3 lighters and put them on your hat and it will work just the same. I wouldnt try it, of course, but yeah...

[littlejohn1959]

They work hand in hand yes, but the trackir works separately from the track clip. Matter of fact, you can probably light 3 lighters and put them on your hat and it will work just the same. I wouldnt try it, of course, but yeah...

 

they would have to be '' zippo lighters '' hey .

the ones with the lighter fluid and flint and wick .

its kind of windy here on this island of newfoundland .

those '' bics '' , wouldnt stand a chance .

i hear ya hitman .

cheers mate .

[Axion]

i wonder if i loosely'' braded '' both cables together . then used heat shrink tape .

it would be a neater job , think?

it would stiffin it up a bit , and may help with the '' popping out issue.

i have my headset plugged into the header on the top of my case . there is a usb plug right next to it .

is it neccasary to have the track clip pro and track ir plugged together , i wonder?

ill have to see if i can mod those cables some when i gets the clip in my hands , for sure .

cheers again .

 

Personally the extra cable (small gauge) has never really bothered me, it attaches to the clip which mounts around the headset. The 'popping out' that occurs occasionally is me knocking the rotatable three pronged stem out of its pivot joint. :music_whistling:

Edited August 27, 2008 by Axion

[S77th-konkussion]

Hell- I think I'd rather it be wireless & battery powered. It's just a couple of .000001 watt LEDs. I'm out of USB's so I can't rearrange anything else. The MIC and the Clip cords would be going in 2 different directions in my current setup.

[littlejohn1959]

greetings ,

well my track pro clip arrived . i still look like a martian .:doh:

no divorce pending , so all must be cool .

 

was it worth the $30 investment ?

well it runs really smooth .its sensitive . it picks up the slighest move .

its not built that sturdy though . looks and feels ,,,, well ,,,, delicate .

im gonna say yes , its worth 30 bucks .

it works great . i like it .

i wouldnt spend much more for it though .

thats my 2 cents .

not much of a review though , hey .

i guess you would have to try it .

ill play with it some more .:joystick::pilotfly:

cheers .

[Willy p.]

Man!!

 

I wish I would have put my computer back together sooner...I would have sold you my Track IR Pro Clip (used for only 1 minute) for $29.99 and free shipping. I think I paid more than 30 bux for it, got it when they first came out...thought it was wire free...NOT! Almost fixated myself with it and my head set… to many wires hanging off my head, plus it was like having a huge arachnid attached to my face. I hope someone smart out there can figure out how to make it run on very small batteries.

[PoleCat]

I think the clip pro is a little better at tracking as you turn your head to the extremes due to the orientation of the LEDS as well, not absolutely sure though.

 

These things I can say for sure, it is cheaply constructed, simply removing your phones and placing them on the table with the clip pro attached risks breaking the really flimsy plastic it is made from. I had to return my first one under warranty as it was constantly popping small bits of inadequately placed plastic all over the office.

Many of the small round black covers meant to be pressed on to hide wires pop off at random. Worse then this, the unit can also actually pop apart at some critical locations with very little force applied, just placing it on a desk. Most of the time you can simply reconstruct the unit by pressing the pieces back into place. The question is how long will it be before you lose the tiny pieces or it breaks for good.

I agree with Kon, very silly to go wired with this device I think. Battery would have been much better.

 

Now the one that I was sent as a replacement is having the same issues.

 

Build quality is horrid.

 

Out

Edited September 4, 2008 by PoleCat