Persian Freedom Mission 4 - Failed ATC Procedures on RTB

[Disala]

So obviously Spoilers on Mission 4 of the campaign ahead.

 

So, here is how my mission went:

 

- Request startup with F10 Menu - Cleared for Startup - Startup engines

- Request Taxi with F10 - Cleared Taxi - Taxi to Runway, holding short of 09 on Alpha

- Request Takeoff via F10 - Cleared - Takeoff Runway 09

 

Fly to WP 4, reaching it at 21:50 as briefed. Contact Razor and wait for clearance into the target area.

Fly into Target Area, destroy Targets Charlie and Delta.

On Egress, I didn't have many weapons left, so I declined the tasking from whiplash.

 

Continuing on the RTB Path, I reach Waypoint 10 and there is no message to contact Al Minhad Tower. I set VHF to Al Minhad Tower and hold for some minutes, still no message to contact the tower appears.

 

I proceed to land and get the message "Mission is a fail because you failed ATC procedures". Obviously, this is at the landing, but why didn't I get the option to request landing there?

[ChillNG]

7 hours ago, Disala said:

So obviously Spoilers on Mission 4 of the campaign ahead.

 

So, here is how my mission went:

 

- Request startup with F10 Menu - Cleared for Startup - Startup engines

- Request Taxi with F10 - Cleared Taxi - Taxi to Runway, holding short of 09 on Alpha

- Request Takeoff via F10 - Cleared - Takeoff Runway 09

 

Fly to WP 4, reaching it at 21:50 as briefed. Contact Razor and wait for clearance into the target area.

Fly into Target Area, destroy Targets Charlie and Delta.

On Egress, I didn't have many weapons left, so I declined the tasking from whiplash.

 

Continuing on the RTB Path, I reach Waypoint 10 and there is no message to contact Al Minhad Tower. I set VHF to Al Minhad Tower and hold for some minutes, still no message to contact the tower appears.

 

I proceed to land and get the message "Mission is a fail because you failed ATC procedures". Obviously, this is at the landing, but why didn't I get the option to request landing there?

 

Hi Disala,

 

Thank you for the purchase and apologies you've run into a problem.

 

Usually these sorts of issues are cased by the radio not setting correctly so most likely this is the cause of the problem, watch out if using pre-sets as the A-10 radios are buggy at the moment.  The most obvious bug is the pre-set wheel not allowing you to select certain channels but I have found when testing recently that channel 1 pre-set will often not register as well when you return to it (it works fine at mission start on the ground).  Also make sure the radio is in the correct mode, eg. manual/pre-set (apologies if you already know all this).

 

The trigger to add the F10 option has three conditions - the radio set to Al Minhad, proximity to the airbase of around 10 miles and the destruction of the Silkworm Radar.  Sounds like you killed all the targets but I just checked the mission and note that it's the radar itself, not the launchers that must be destroyed to complete the mission.

 

Hope that helps, please let me know if I can be any further assistance.

 

[Disala]

Thank you for the extensive answer. It seems that the Bug with the preset got to me. Channel 1 Preset worked fine on the ground, as did swithing to overlord via preset 2, so I naturally assumed going back to Preset 1 would tune the radio to Al Minhad.

[icemaker]

Radio presets on A-10C are broken since five months  but ED don't care!

So for now i allways use manual radio setting to avoid using presets...

[ChillNG]

1 hour ago, icemaker said:

 

So for now i always use manual radio setting to avoid using presets...

 

Excellent advice!

 

2 hours ago, Disala said:

Thank you for the extensive answer. It seems that the Bug with the preset got to me. Channel 1 Preset worked fine on the ground, as did swithing to overlord via preset 2, so I naturally assumed going back to Preset 1 would tune the radio to Al Minhad.

 

No problem...it's a bit of a pain and probably catches a few people out.

[razer668]

I really don`t know exactly, but I think you have to agree the task of whiplash to end this mission. You have to destroy the "fast movers"/ships)! 

I haven`t managed this mission, too. Just searching for the fast movers... 

[razer668]

Thanks for the amazing strong campaign!

About mission 4 I like to ask: If I can`t find the ships to destroy them: The result is that the mission is a fail. Tried a lot of times but no lucky end. Where are the ships exactly? What means 230° from bulls? I would be happy about a little bit help. If I decline the ship mission, the mission is a fail-no command for the wingman is available to attack the boats.

[ChillNG]

1 hour ago, razer668 said:

Thanks for the amazing strong campaign!

About mission 4 I like to ask: If I can`t find the ships to destroy them: The result is that the mission is a fail. Tried a lot of times but no lucky end. Where are the ships exactly? What means 230° from bulls? I would be happy about a little bit help. If I decline the ship mission, the mission is a fail-no command for the wingman is available to attack the boats.

 

Hi Razor, apologies if I missed your original message, glad to hear you've enjoyed the campaign so far.  You can decline the small boats task and still complete the mission, it is a very difficult task so I put a way out of in the mission, even if you accept the task you can still call it as complete at any time and proceed no matter how many boats are still alive.  230 from bulls means a bearing of 230 from the mission bullseye (see the mission briefing notes) which will help you narrow down the search area.  Unfortunately there is no wingman command to attack the boats, this is because DCS doesn't currently allow the same AI unit to both bomb static targets and attack individual units, it would be a great help if there was!

[razer668]

Thanks for the help- Today I have completed the primary and secondary objects (The wingman told at the end). I accepted the  boat mission, found the boats, but destroyed none of them. The boats destroyed the fleet, the mission is a fail.

 

In the debriefing (screenshot 2) you can see 1 destroyed friendly ship.

 

The same happens when I will decline the boat mission (I think so...).

 

Screenshot1: Mission fail

Screenshot2: Debriefing with the result.

 

Should I try again and decline?

Or should I accept the boat mission and try to hit at least 1 boat?

 

 

 

[razer668]

Or, what I like to ask is: ATC procedure means I have to contact the tower before landing and if not the mission is a fail?

If I contact the tower (I think I haven`t done in this mission  :O))) ) The mission should be completed than, or? 

[ChillNG]

10 hours ago, razer668 said:

Or, what I like to ask is: ATC procedure means I have to contact the tower before landing and if not the mission is a fail?

If I contact the tower (I think I haven`t done in this mission  :O))) ) The mission should be completed than, or? 

 

Yes make sure you request clearance to land, this is why the mission is failing.  You can decline the boat task it won't affect this.

[razer668]

Thanks very much. Mission 4 is completed. 3 ships destroyed :O) 

Requesting the tower (this time) completed.

Mission=success!

This mission has a good learn effect on me.

Thanks for the help :O)))

[ChillNG]

9 hours ago, razer668 said:

Thanks very much. Mission 4 is completed. 3 ships destroyed :O) 

Requesting the tower (this time) completed.

Mission=success!

This mission has a good learn effect on me.

Thanks for the help :O)))

No probs

[giullep]

congratulations for the campaign .. beautiful!

 

I in the return of mission 4, set the radio on the correct frequency of the ATC, but the voice "in others" does not appear in the radio menu, to request landing, if I ask it in the main radio menu the permission to land, once I land, then he tells me that I have completed the missions but I have failed the landing procedures. mix failed (4 times the same..)

ps: in all 4 missions I have not found the boats

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[ChillNG]

4 hours ago, giullep said:

congratulations for the campaign .. beautiful!

 

I in the return of mission 4, set the radio on the correct frequency of the ATC, but the voice "in others" does not appear in the radio menu, to request landing, if I ask it in the main radio menu the permission to land, once I land, then he tells me that I have completed the missions but I have failed the landing procedures. mix failed (4 times the same..)

ps: in all 4 missions I have not found the boats

 

Most likely this is a radio setting issue..it nearly always is so double check all the settings.  As long as it's set and you've been cleared back to base the option will appear.  The boats are very tricky,  but it can be done, use the Bulls calls to create offset points to help you locate.  Make sure you are completing or aborting the boat task as well, I don't think the F10 option will appear if you don't finish the task one way or another.

 

You can see the boats being located on this playthrough:

 

 

[Wespe]

Hello! im cleared to start up, taxi and take off, destroyed main and secondary targets, destroyed ALL fast boats, recieved congrats from NAVY, requested permisson to land AAAND just a 80 scores! Why?

[ChillNG]

On 8/1/2022 at 11:13 PM, Wespe said:

Hello! im cleared to start up, taxi and take off, destroyed main and secondary targets, destroyed ALL fast boats, recieved congrats from NAVY, requested permisson to land AAAND just a 80 scores! Why?

Hi, score break down is as follows:

60 points for completing the mission.

20 points for killing all 4 Silkworm launchers.

10 points for killing the secondary targets.

10 points for killing 50% or more of the boats.

If you only got 80 then I guess it's a combination of either not killing all primary targets or you failed to takeout the secondary target and boats.  It is possible to still get a thanks from the navy if you only killed 33% of the boats, the audio is different to the best outcome, and you don't get the points. 

[Wespe]

1 час назад, ChillNG сказал:

20 points for killing all 4 Silkworm launchers.

oh, i just killed the radar, not a launchers(

[ChillNG]

22 hours ago, Wespe said:

oh, i just killed the radar, not a launchers(

Have to admit I built this mission a long while back so had to double check the conditions I set, turns out to complete the mission with a basic score (60) you just need to kill the radar.  To pick up an additional 20 points the launchers need destroying as well.