Adding Commands to Viacom Profile

[Ojo]

I've added new commands and key actions in voice attack to mimic modules in DSC according to default keys and actions for mods,

separated them into category's such as "Start Up", "Views", "Modes" etc.

I don't see them showing up in ViacomPro Keyword list...

what is it i need to do to make this happen ?

 

Thanks in advance.

[Ilias6ty7]

Ojo, I simply add additional voice commands to VoiceAttack, to complement the VAICOM Pro commands. Unsure if you can add commands to VAICOM Pro's list. I haven't explored this and a quick scan of the Guide doesn't reveal this ability.

[MAXsenna]

I've added new commands and key actions in voice attack to mimic modules in DSC according to default keys and actions for mods,
separated them into category's such as "Start Up", "Views", "Modes" etc.
I don't see them showing up in ViacomPro Keyword list...
what is it i need to do to make this happen ?
 
Thanks in advance.

VAICOM doesn't do that, yet.
Odrinary VA commands will be handled by VA and have keypresses sent to DCS, so they will never be a part of VAICOM.
I always add my VA commands to another VA profile, to not mess my VAICOM profile, and then I "add/piggyback" that profile to the VAICOM profile.
Not at my computer, but if you need more details, ask away.
Cheers!

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[Ojo]

If I make another profile in voice attack I.e. A-10 ... and use default keys and actions, will the keywords show in ViacomPro?

[MAXsenna]

If I make another profile in voice attack I.e. A-10 ... and use default keys and actions, will the keywords show in ViacomPro?

No, if you mean the keyword editor in the VAICOM control panel.
VAICOM is just a plugin for VoiceAttack, and communicates with DCS over the network through the export.lua.
VAICOM doesn't send keypresses like VA does, hence you can't combine the two in the same way.
VAICOM only uses VA as a gateway for the speech-to-text. It's actually Microsoft Speech Recognition that does that. Not even VA itself.
Have you read the VAICOM manual? It's very well written.
Cheers!

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[Ojo]

It is very well written, actually reading it as I text...

understanding more as I continue to read...

 wondering if In the future ViacomPro will have an option for created commands in voice attack can be added to keyword list?

 Training words in ViacomPro editor is a huge difference for setup with recognition.

 

Thank You for taking time to help, new to VA/VCP but Wow such an asset for minimal cost!

 

With VR definitely a must IMO

 

Edited May 27, 2021 by Ojo
Wrong spelling

[MAXsenna]

It is very well written, actually reading it as I text...
understanding more as I continue to read...
 wondering if In the future ViacomPro will have an option for created commands in voice attack can be added to keyword list?
 Training words in ViacomPro editor is a huge difference for setup with recognition.
 
Thank You for taking time to help, new to VA/VCP but Wow such an asset for minimal cost!
 
With VR definitely a must IMO
 

Glad to help!
I don't think we will ever see a cooperation between VAICOM and VA on that level.
But maybe Hollywood will cook up something for VAICOM on the future!

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[sthompson]

4 hours ago, Ojo said:

I've added new commands and key actions in voice attack to mimic modules in DSC according to default keys and actions for mods,

separated them into category's such as "Start Up", "Views", "Modes" etc.

I don't see them showing up in ViacomPro Keyword list...

what is it i need to do to make this happen ?

 

Thanks in advance.

Here is a bit more information to supplement the very good advice you have received already from MaxSenna. VAICOM (not Viacom) stands for Voice AI Communications. (At least that's my best guess.) It's for AI communications only. It's not intended for general control of your aircraft, or views, etc. The only keywords you can add are aliases for the AI communications functions that VAICOM supports. VAICOM PRO communicates with the AI directly using network functions to exchange messages between its VoiceAttack plugin and lua code that it adds to DCS itself.  (Older versions of VAICOM used virtual keypresses instead, but that system was quite fragile and frequently broke when DCS was updated.)

 

VoiceAttack, on the other hand, can activate all kinds of things through voice commands, but is limited in its communications to virtual keypresses, mouse clicks, etc. I'm not sure why you would want to add VoiceAttack commands that have nothing to do with AI communications to your VAICOM keyword list. VAICOM would not know what to do with them.

 

[Ojo]

Actually it’s helpful in training the voice recognition to the user... the words in keyword list can be brought in speech recognition and user can say/speak words with unique voice patterns that help with stubborn words... some commands in voice attack don’t respond as well as others... the option in Vaicom to train words fix this issue.

[hornblower793]

1 hour ago, Ojo said:

Actually it’s helpful in training the voice recognition to the user... the words in keyword list can be brought in speech recognition and user can say/speak words with unique voice patterns that help with stubborn words... some commands in voice attack don’t respond as well as others... the option in Vaicom to train words fix this issue.

The best way to do what you want is to train them using Microsoft speech and adding to its recognition dictionary. To start this just type speech into the Windows search bar, open the Windows Speech Recognition app and then right click on the microphone that appears to access the speech dictionary

[MAXsenna]

Actually it’s helpful in training the voice recognition to the user... the words in keyword list can be brought in speech recognition and user can say/speak words with unique voice patterns that help with stubborn words... some commands in voice attack don’t respond as well as others... the option in Vaicom to train words fix this issue.

Doesn't matter if it's useful or not.
VAICOM is not VoiceAttack, and VA is not VAICOM. If you go to the VA Discord and you ask for help on VAICOM, politely nudge to VAICOM support, just like they will do with every user that asks for support on a product that ain't VA.
As for the keywords training in VAICOM. Never done me any good, but some users say it works for them. Only training that works for me is to train the Microsoft Speech Recognition, and/or adding words to the dictionary with a recording. This helps for VA commands as well. And it works because, like I wrote, neither VAICOM nor VoiceAttack does any voice recognition and speech-to-text.

Cheers!

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[Ojo]

"Doesn't matter if it's useful or not."   Point taken, but really Max ?

 

Things are definitely a lot more clear now, Thanks for all the replies ...

Like I stated earlier still new to VA / VIACOM

Same as anything else, the more you become familiar... 

[hornblower793]

47 minutes ago, Ojo said:

"Doesn't matter if it's useful or not."   Point taken, but really Max ?

 

Things are definitely a lot more clear now, Thanks for all the replies ...

Like I stated earlier still new to VA / VIACOM

Same as anything else, the more you become familiar... 

Indeed - we are just more advanced newbies 

[MAXsenna]

Indeed - we are just more advanced newbies 

Spot on!

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"Doesn't matter if it's useful or not."   Point taken, but really Max ?
 
Things are definitely a lot more clear now, Thanks for all the replies ...
Like I stated earlier still new to VA / VIACOM
Same as anything else, the more you become familiar... 

Oh! Sorry, I meant no harm! English is not my first language.
I just didn't want to get your hopes up. I totally see your point you see!


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[RogueRunner]

With all the new features added how long will it take for Viacom to catch up with the new voice commands?

Now that Jester can do Lantirn, we need to speak to him ASAP

[MAXsenna]

With all the new features added how long will it take for Viacom to catch up with the new voice commands?
Now that Jester can do Lantirn, we need to speak to him ASAP

It's a matter of coding/time for the developer@Hollywood_315
Only he can answer that.

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[RogueRunner]

So you can bring up the radial wheel by saying 'Option' right?

Also doesn't work for me. I tried the 'Disable menus' tickbox both ways and 'Allow options' but not worky.

How does that work?

[MAXsenna]

18 minutes ago, RogueRunner said:

So you can bring up the radial wheel by saying 'Option' right?
Also doesn't work for me. I tried the 'Disable menus' tickbox both ways and 'Allow options' but not worky.
How does that work?

Works like this.
If you have the AIRIO enabled. Heatblur's own Jester Wheel is disabled.
You have to use the VAICOM proprietary one, which seems it doesn't have all/latest Jester commands, by the "Jester options" command.
Just "Options" will give you the ordinary DCS comms menu.
If you disable AIRIO, all VAICOM Jester commands are disabled, but all other VAICOM commands are of course available. And Heatblur's Jester Wheel ar re-enabled.
Hope this helps, and I didn't miss anything!

EDIT: I learned today, that to bring up the Heatblur Jester wheel, you press "A", and to give the command, you press "A" again. 

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Edited October 21, 2021 by MAXsenna

[sthompson]

1 hour ago, MAXsenna said:

Works like this.
If you have the AIRIO enabled. Heatblur's own Jester Wheel is disabled.
 

Just having AIRIO installed will disable the Heatblur wheel, even if AIRIO is not enabled. Wish it were not so.

[MAXsenna]

Just having AIRIO installed will disable the Heatblur wheel, even if AIRIO is not enabled. Wish it were not so.

Nope, unless I misunderstand.
Just tested because I was curious, and I just followed what's in the manual.
Closed DCS, disabled, restart VA, start DCS. No delete AIRIO dll, no repair of DCS.
WORKS!
To get AIRIO functionality back. Closed DCS, enabled, restart VA, start DCS.
Awesome!

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[RogueRunner]

Cool beans, I was under the impression 'Options' would bring up the wheel and you then use 'pick 1' etc etc.

So for me pressing 'A' got me the wheel even with AIRIO enabled.

[MAXsenna]

Right, "Options" have always been the comms menu only, with the "Take xx".

Seriously? Jester wheel is working together with AIRIO? Gotta check that out!!!

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[Japo32]

For me the wheel appears if I say "Jester" (wait a second) "options" (I have translated into spanish all the Vaicom profile but it works.

Then the wheel appears without icons but with text labels and can be selected with "take xx" or a LControl+number.

but the no-go for me is that the full cockpit disappears when the wheel is on.

[MAXsenna]

Right, "Options" have always been the comms menu only, with the "Take xx".

Seriously? Jester wheel is working together with AIRIO? Gotta check that out!!!

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Nope, it didn't.

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For me the wheel appears if I say "Jester" (wait a second) "options" (I have translated into spanish all the Vaicom profile but it works.
Then the wheel appears without icons but with text labels and can be selected with "take xx" or a LControl+number.
but the no-go for me is that the full cockpit disappears when the wheel is on.

Sure, but @RogueRunner says the original Jester wheel works even with AIRIO running. Not the VAICOM Jester wheel.
But alas it doesn't work for me.
But the AIRIO hints works well. I'll probably gonna use them mostly, as that will actually help me learning the commands by heart.

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[Japo32]

ohhh if the original wheel works with AIRIO, then I will keep  a close look to this post!! hope there is a way to make it work with the cockpit visual.