no evidence just a feeling Delta wing behavior

[GGTharos]

Did you post a paper or a link to its summary?

[Mistang]

2 minutes ago, GGTharos said:

Did you post a paper or a link to its summary?

Yes

here again

https://asmedigitalcollection.asme.org/appliedmechanicsreviews/article-abstract/43/9/209/399157/Lift-Force-of-Delta-Wings?redirectedFrom=PDF
 

Im not going to a full Navier stokes but I will show the mathematical reason. 

[GGTharos]

I don't need you to do any Navier Stokes equations, it isn't what I asked for.  You won't need to do any of that.

And yes, you posted a link to its summary, you know that no one's going to go buy that, right?

That's ok of course as long you post any relevant graph for comparison.

Edited June 18, 2021 by GGTharos

[Mistang]

1 minute ago, GGTharos said:

I don't need you to do any Navier Stokes equations, it isn't what I asked for.  You won't need to do any of that.

And yes, you posted a link to its summary, you know that no one's going to go buy that, right?

That's ok of course as long you post any relevant graph for comparison.

 

I can get you the full.

Hold on

 

[GGTharos]

Just now, Mistang said:

I can get you the full.

Hold on

 

No, that's ok - I appreciate it but it isn't necessary - like I said, when you make your comparison you just need the relevant snippets.

Focus.   Decide what you're going to compare first, don't start by jumping to the end

[Mistang]

2 minutes ago, GGTharos said:

I don't need you to do any Navier Stokes equations, it isn't what I asked for.  You won't need to do any of that.

And yes, you posted a link to its summary, you know that no one's going to go buy that, right?

That's ok of course as long you post any relevant graph for comparison.

 

 

lee1990.pdf

[GGTharos]

What does this tell you?

 

"Methods of either altering
the vorticity generation near the leading edge or changing the vorticity
convection along the cores can be effective in controlling the lift"

[Mistang]

3 minutes ago, GGTharos said:

 

No, that's ok - I appreciate it but it isn't necessary - like I said, when you make your comparison you just need the relevant snippets.

Focus.   Decide what you're going to compare first, don't start by jumping to the end

I'm not going to bother with everything you asked because I'm lazy. Also DCS should just publish the graphs it uses so I don't have to be Francis Bacon.

 

anyway

 

Delta wings have half the lift at 10-20 AOA. 
 

at 40 AOA they have far more lift but who does a turn like that?

Just now, GGTharos said:

What does this tell you?

 

"Methods of either altering
the vorticity generation near the leading edge or changing the vorticity
convection along the cores can be effective in controlling the lift"

That shouldn't matter that much and I doubt dcs has a full vortex simulation given that would make them a billionaire.

[GGTharos]

You don't really need a vortex simulation but ok ... since you're that lazy, we're done

[Mistang]

35 minutes ago, GGTharos said:

You don't really need a vortex simulation but ok ... since you're that lazy, we're done

Vortex rings are like bird strikes, they're just a killer event that isn't helpful to simulate. 
 

wingtip vortex is stupid in a lot of cases. 

Edited June 19, 2021 by Mistang

[Mistang]

Honestly this thread just proves the expertise of Swedish video game pilots who didn't know the phantom had titanium.

[Mars Exulte]

9 hours ago, Mistang said:

Vortex rings are like bird strikes, they're just a killer event that isn't helpful to simulate. 

  ''Make it moar realishtic!''

''No, no, not THAT realishtic!''

 

Quote

wingtip vortex is stupid in a lot of cases. 

  It's pretty clear:

 

You have no idea what you're actually presenting to discuss and

 

You're not actually interested in discussing anything. You act like you just discovered how to use Google a few days ago, and can't wait to show everybody this fantastic stuff you found on the internet that nobody but you has possibly ever seen @@ I say that sarcastically, not because I'm harshing a ''new guy'' but because I'm harshing a low effort troll @@

Edited June 19, 2021 by Mars Exulte

[BIGNEWY]

Hi all, 

 

please dont make this personal and keep to the rules, if you have to block each other please do. 

 

The op has shared his opinion, but that is all it is, he has no evidence its just a feeling. 

 

thanks

[Mistang]

50 minutes ago, Mars Exulte said:

  ''Make it moar realishtic!''

''No, no, not THAT realishtic!''

 

  It's pretty clear:

 

You have no idea what you're actually presenting to discuss and

 

You're not actually interested in discussing anything. You act like you just discovered how to use Google a few days ago, and can't wait to show everybody this fantastic stuff you found on the internet that nobody but you has possibly ever seen @@ I say that sarcastically, not because I'm harshing a ''new guy'' but because I'm harshing a low effort troll @@

 

Your insults are weak, you didn't even find a BVR helicopter kill.

32 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Hi all, 

 

please dont make this personal and keep to the rules, if you have to block each other please do. 

 

The op has shared his opinion, but that is all it is, he has no evidence its just a feeling. 

 

thanks

Your insults are pretty weak too, scientific papers are "just a feeling".

 

What does it take to get banned here?

[GGTharos]

The papers aren't a 'feeling', your statements are.

You've put zero effort into proving anything at all.  You posted links to papers ... great.  Thanks!

 

You haven't shown a single thing with respect to DCS doing anything wrong.

[BIGNEWY]

and we are done here. 

 

thanks