Realsimulator FSSB-R3 Lightning Viper setting

[Willdass]

Hi,

Just received my FSSB-R3 mount yesterday ( amazing service btw, received 2 days after ordering) and I am very happy with it. I pair it with a TM warthog stick mounted on monstertech table mounts.

 

I'm trying to create a realistic F-16 setting, but from what I've read the real stick requires a lot more force to move than the FSSB-R3 can handle ( 25lbs for pitch, 17lbs for roll). The max settings for the FSSB-R3 is 13lbs and that will make my table mounts unstable.

 

What would be the most realistic setting for me? I assume the difference in mounting and g forces play a part in force input needed?

Anyone with a similar setup would can share their settings?

All input is greatly appreciated!

Edited September 15, 2021 by Willdass

[FoxTwo]

I can look mine up at home but I think I set it to about 6.5 lbs pitch and 4.5lbs roll with some NASA on both. Basically it's whatever your comfortable with but I think you don't want to go under 2lbs.

 

https://realsimulator.com/videos-r3/

 

There's a video about roll and pitch sensibility and how to configure it.

[Willdass]

Thanks! I have 4.33 lbs Roll with NASA 140% and 8,05lbs Pitch with 80% NASA. Min BFA on both and -12 angle offset. Have no idea if thats somewhat "realistic"  though, in the end it really doesnt matter but it would be interesting to get a close match to the real thing.

Edited September 15, 2021 by Willdass

[FoxTwo]

Yeah at first I was going for "as real as possible" but then I realized the entire concept is a bit bonkers.

Do what feels best for you, realism is out the window there are too many variables that just don't line up.

 

Here's what I have mine at at the moment but really, it just comes down to what feels best for you with the equipment you have.

 

 

[Willdass]

Thanks, appreciate the input. I will do some more testing!9

[Burt]

I’m concerned that your TM F18 stick is not gonna be able to last if your going for realism. Is it holding up with the R3L base. 

[Willdass]

On 11/1/2021 at 7:13 PM, Burt said:

I’m concerned that your TM F18 stick is not gonna be able to last if your going for realism. Is it holding up with the R3L base. 

Slight correction,  my TM F18 stick is mounted on a WARBRD base and I have the TM Warthog on the FSSB base, but you were right. I did not hold up well. It's not built for the stress put on it so I ordered the Realsim stick. Arrives on monday, stoked!

Edited February 5, 2022 by Willdass

[Burt]

3 hours ago, Willdass said:

Slight correction,  my TM F18 stick is mounted on a WARBRD base and I have the TM Warthog on the FSSB base, but you were right. I did not hold up well. It's not built for the stress but on it so I ordered the Realsim stick. Arrives on monday, stoked!

Oh my god your going to love it ! 

[Rosebud47]

I´m using a small wooden wedge to stabilize the TM Warthog grip on to the FSSB. Works good and makes the hold solid.

Here´s a video from a guy to came up with the idea by using a Lego brick.

 

[Willdass]

12 hours ago, Rosebud47 said:

I´m using a small wooden wedge to stabilize the TM Warthog grip on to the FSSB. Works good and makes the hold solid.

Here´s a video from a guy to came up with the idea by using a Lego brick.

 

 

Yeah, that's a good solution! I actually changed the tailpiece to a more solid angled tailpiece. But it still had a slight wiggle in the pitch axis. Also, I have a warthog base lying around, and it will be easier to sell it with a stick

 

On 2/4/2022 at 6:18 PM, Burt said:

Oh my god your going to love it ! 

Hope so!

 

[Burt]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284117920890
 

[Rosebud47]

So far the simple wedge avoids the wiggle of the TM stick. Surprising, that there is a kind of small business on ebay for it. As soon as the TM stick makes more problems, I will order the realsimulator F-16 stick as well, but so far and after all the years, the TM stick is still in good condition, so I´ll keep it, cause I like the metal grip of TM stick.

[Burt]

Yeah I love the TM viper grip and cold metal feeling it’s definitely one of the best grips out imo so solid I have mine mounted on a Virpil CM2 and it’s amazing ! You’ll like the RS viper and R3L base combo especially all the extra binding it offers. 

[Willdass]

Just got it! Having some installation issues though. I get no status LED lights and can't connect it via bluetooth.Initially I thought it was only the CE model which had bluetooth, is this not true? I have the regular one, but the manual says that I have to connect it via bluetooth... Pressing Trigger 2, TMS C and DMS C does nothing when trying to update firmware in DCC. 

I get almost all binds recocniced in the HID Device Tool, but not TMS C, DMS C or the directional pinky switches.

How do I get all the buttons mapped? I dont really care about the bluetooth if its not necessary.

Any suggestions?

 

EDIT: updated FSSB-R3 firmware, solved it.

 

Edited February 7, 2022 by Willdass

[Supmua]

The beta firmware treats the device as single HID, rather than dual HID for ease of bindings.  The catch is that you won't see all the button inputs in windows controller panel since there are too many, but it works perfectly in any games.  You can request this from tech support.  It's still in testing but I can't see why they won't let you try it.

 

Another cool thing is the fact that the real F-16 stick axis rotates 12 degree clockwise even though it's physically aligned with normal X and Y axis, this is near impossible for typical joystick bases to emulate.  The FSSB R3L can do this easily in software setting if you want to emulate the real thing.

Edited February 8, 2022 by Supmua

[Willdass]

22 hours ago, Supmua said:

The beta firmware treats the device as single HID, rather than dual HID for ease of bindings.  The catch is that you won't see all the button inputs in windows controller panel since there are too many, but it works perfectly in any games.  You can request this from tech support.  It's still in testing but I can't see why they won't let you try it.

 

Another cool thing is the fact that the real F-16 stick axis rotates 12 degree clockwise even though it's physically aligned with normal X and Y axis, this is near impossible for typical joystick bases to emulate.  The FSSB R3L can do this easily in software setting if you want to emulate the real thing.

 

Thx! Got it to work now with the firmware update!

Yes, that feature is amazing. been using that for a few months now.