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It said that it is a bit more bouncy then RL, but overall DCS is master 🙂 I can wheel land all ED's ww2 planes without bounce so.

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25 minutes ago, grafspee said:

It said that it is a bit more bouncy then Rl🙂

And I think that's what the thread creator was getting at.

I can also wheel landings on all planes, yet I felt that it still jumps a bit too much, in principle that was what he mentioned in the video.

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13 minutes ago, Hobel said:

 

And I think that's what the thread creator was getting at.

I can also wheel landings on all planes, yet I felt that it still jumps a bit too much, in principle that was what he mentioned in the video.

But thread topic says that they bounce no matter what which is not true.

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41 minutes ago, Hobel said:

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And I think that's what the thread creator was getting at.

I can also wheel landings on all planes, yet I felt that it still jumps a bit too much, in principle that was what he mentioned in the video.


When you view the previous real world videos it’s clear there isn’t much suspension movement or damping with these land based fighters. Basically suspension is heavy and weight saving important.

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2 hours ago, grafspee said:

But thread topic says that they bounce no matter what which is not true.

yes that is true though 😅

 

2 hours ago, Mogster said:


When you view the previous real world videos it’s clear there isn’t much suspension movement or damping with these land based fighters. Basically suspension is heavy and weight saving important.

yes, therefore also a little

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Am 25.9.2021 um 16:28 schrieb Hawkeye91:

I've flown tail draggers IRL and flown many tail dragger aircraft in other simulators and DCS warbirds are the only ones I can't wheel land without getting a bounce. I find even if I touch down with the tiniest amount of sink rate to get the wheels on the ground, I still get a bounce, albeit a small one, but it shouldn't be the case.

 

Bounces occur during wheel landings when you touch down with too high of a sink rate. The high sink rate causes the tail to drop due to momentum which in turn increases in the AoA of the aircraft and it starts flying again.

 

What appears to be missing is the torque effect of wheel friction drag of coming in contact with the ground. The deceleration torque affect would cancel out the tendency for the tail to drop on a wheel landing as long as sink rate isn't excessive. Currently, it feels like this balance doesn't exist and touching down at all, always results in a bounce, even if only slightly.

 

3 point landings on the other hand feel accurate and very nice. I'd just like for the ability to do wheel landings as I prefer them for crosswind landings, you tend to have more rudder effectiveness with a wheel landing and reduce the chances of a ground loop with a crosswind landing. (Yes I know this is a topic of religion among tail dragger pilots)

 

Here's a video I made in a different simulator flying a Beaver (Yes I know I screwed up the thumbnail and put DHC-3) for comparison. 

 

 

I'd like to be able to do that with Warbirds, I've yet to get a wheel landing to work like this in DCS though.

 

have you tested it again? with the new landing gear change, something seems to have changed well

 

 

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