Supmua Posted October 22, 2021 Posted October 22, 2021 (edited) The next RS software update will combine HID into single device listing for each of the the FSSB R3 base and the grips, currently you would see 2 devices of the same name in DCS and windows controller setting which may create some confusion. With the new update, you will now only see a single device with one name sporting 64 DX inputs. The downside is that not all the buttons and switches will be visible in Win controller setting since it only sees 32 DX buttons per device…but this should work perfectly in DCS and in RS_Tools (this is similar to Winwing Throttle’s Startup panel). I might be able to get a hold of the test unit for the F-35 throttle also, already previewed by Lowblow recently. Will disclose as much as I’m allowed to. Edited October 22, 2021 by Supmua 2 PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
Lynchsl62 Posted October 22, 2021 Posted October 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, Supmua said: The next RS software update will combine HID into single device listing for each of the the FSSB R3 base and the grips, currently you would see 2 devices of the same name in DCS and windows controller setting which may create some confusion. With the new update, you will now only see a single device with one name sporting 64 DX inputs. The downside is that not all the buttons and switches will be visible in Win controller setting since it only sees 32 DX buttons per device…but this should work perfectly in DCS and in RS_Tools (this is similar to Winwing Throttle’s Startup panel). Making a single HID will make things easier in another game/simulator where there is a maximum number of HID that the game can accomodate and having 2 taken up is at times inconvenient. Though as stated for DCS this will not be an issue. Main request is that the push function is accessible on all buttons in DCS, especially TMS, DMS, CMS and Trim Is there any update on the F35 grip, that grip has not been reviewed? PC: 9980XE @ 64GB RAM /2080Ti, Samsung C49RG90 Joystick bases: VKB GFIII, FSSB R3L, Brunner CLS-E, Virpil Mongoos CM2 Joystick grips: Realsimulator (F-18CGRH, F-16SGRH-CE), VKB (MCG Pro, F-14, KG-12), Virpil Warbrd Throttles: Virpil CM2, Kantorrin, Other: TrackIR, TM MFDx2 (Cubesim Screenx2), Virpil Control Panel 1
Supmua Posted October 22, 2021 Author Posted October 22, 2021 Their philosophy is one device at a time. No news on the F-35 stick grip but that would likely be the next on the list since they have announced the HOTAS set. Of course I will be pestering them for the F-16 throttle grip also. PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
Supmua Posted October 22, 2021 Author Posted October 22, 2021 FYI, for games that support a limited number of HID devices you can use something like HIDHIDE from Nefarious software to mask the unneeded devices. This is how I got my setup and peripherals to play nice with MSFS, MechWarrior, etc. PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
Supmua Posted October 22, 2021 Author Posted October 22, 2021 A little teaser...check out all the bindable switches on that grip. PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
RogueSqdn Posted October 24, 2021 Posted October 24, 2021 Any idea when this update will be available? Reducing the amount of HID devices would help me massively. If I have more than two Razer devices plugged in, other devices will disconnect. I had to sacrifice my Tartarus Pro in order to keep my Winwing combat panel working. I currently have 10 HID devices connected: FSSB R3L (x2), F16SGRH CE (x2), TUSBA R2, Winwing takeoff and combat panels, TPR rudders, Total Controls MFBB, and Razer Huntsman v2 Analog. 1 DEFENSOR FORTIS Spoiler Systems: Falcon NW Talon: Ryzen 9 5950X @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3090 FE; Falcon NW Mach V: Core i7 3930K @3.2GHz, 32GB DDR3, GTX 1080 FE Cockpit: MonsterTech MTX F, 42" 4K TV, HP Reverb G2, Oculus Rift S, PointCTRL Controls: RS F16SGRH CE, RS F18CGRH, VPC T-50CM2, VFX, WarBRD (Grips); VPC T-50CM2, RS FSSB R3L (Bases); Winwing F/A-18C, VPC T-50CM3, VPC T-50CM, TM Warthog, Cougar (Throttles); VPC ACE2 (Rudders)
Supmua Posted October 25, 2021 Author Posted October 25, 2021 Any idea when this update will be available? Reducing the amount of HID devices would help me massively. If I have more than two Razer devices plugged in, other devices will disconnect. I had to sacrifice my Tartarus Pro in order to keep my Winwing combat panel working. I currently have 10 HID devices connected: FSSB R3L (x2), F16SGRH CE (x2), TUSBA R2, Winwing takeoff and combat panels, TPR rudders, Total Controls MFBB, and Razer Huntsman v2 Analog.It’s currently in testing but you can email them and ask for the latest beta version, don’t think they would mind that. For games with limited HID devices support, I suggest that you use HIDHide app or something similar to mask some of the devices (can be configured per app as well). I have 15+ peripherals, and this allows me to play MSFS without crashing in control setting menu. PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
RogueSqdn Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 I’ll ask them, thanks. My issue isn’t game specific, it’s on the Windows level. I suspect it’s an issue with Razer’s drivers. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro DEFENSOR FORTIS Spoiler Systems: Falcon NW Talon: Ryzen 9 5950X @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX 3090 FE; Falcon NW Mach V: Core i7 3930K @3.2GHz, 32GB DDR3, GTX 1080 FE Cockpit: MonsterTech MTX F, 42" 4K TV, HP Reverb G2, Oculus Rift S, PointCTRL Controls: RS F16SGRH CE, RS F18CGRH, VPC T-50CM2, VFX, WarBRD (Grips); VPC T-50CM2, RS FSSB R3L (Bases); Winwing F/A-18C, VPC T-50CM3, VPC T-50CM, TM Warthog, Cougar (Throttles); VPC ACE2 (Rudders)
Supmua Posted October 25, 2021 Author Posted October 25, 2021 Right now the single HID option is only for the FSSB R3, but this will be available for all the grips as well. PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted October 26, 2021 Posted October 26, 2021 On my end, it's always been one single device: Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
Supmua Posted October 26, 2021 Author Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said: On my end, it's always been one single device: There has always been a firmware that allows single HID but limits the total inputs to 32 DX buttons per memory slot. The upcoming one opens up all the possible inputs (64) per memory slot while retaining single HID on windows listings (activated by depressing any 5-way button then push up/down/left/right). Check if you currently have 32 or 64 DX inputs. Edited October 26, 2021 by Supmua 2 PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
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