investigating Missing JAM HUD Indicator

[headbreaker_ger]

Greetings, 

AFAIK, the Hornet should show a HUD-Indication if the ASPJ is active. 

IIRC at the moment we only have that indication on the ATT RDR Page, but it should also be on the HUD.

Here is a picture from HUD Footage from around 1991. 

 

 

[BIGNEWY]

Hi, 

I will ask the team but I will need to find evidence that it is correct for our hornet. 

Thanks 

[Ahmed]

JAM Code/cues are  also present on 2016 Rhinos Hornets. Whether its presence is related to own jammer active as OP says, or own radar detecting jamming against it (as some docs seem to suggest -- see JAM/XJAM cues), is beyond my understanding.

Edited February 22, 2022 by Ahmed

[Harker]

JAM Code/cues are  also present on 2016 Rhinos Hornets. Whether its presence is related to own jammer active as OP says, or own radar detecting jamming against it (as some docs seem to suggest -- see JAM/XJAM cues), is beyond my understanding.

I'm going to hazard a guess and say that the HUD cue is indeed the JAM/XJAM cue mentioned in 742. AFAIK, X depends on the type of jamming. Here, VJAM could indicate velocity jamming associated with the L&S, although I'm just guessing.

[headbreaker_ger]

6 hours ago, Harker said:

9 hours ago, Ahmed said:

JAM Code/cues are  also present on 2016 Rhinos Hornets. Whether its presence is related to own jammer active as OP says, or own radar detecting jamming against it (as some docs seem to suggest -- see JAM/XJAM cues), is beyond my understanding.

I'm going to hazard a guess and say that the HUD cue is indeed the JAM/XJAM cue mentioned in 742. AFAIK, X depends on the type of jamming. Here, VJAM could indicate velocity jamming associated with the L&S, although I'm just guessing.

That might be possible but in the video where I got the Screenshot from you can clearly see the JAM indication is only present while SAM-Indicator are also present, so I don't think it's associated with L&S at this Point. But Im surly open to get proofed wrong. 

[Ahmed]

There is no visible L&S on your video, that's exactly why/when the "JAM" cue is visible (the JAM cue shows when jamming is detected not associated with the MSI L&S or STT trackfile. If the jamming were associated with the MSI L&S or STT trackfile then it would say "XJAM" according to the 742 that Harker points to, or, apparently in a 2016 Hornet, in some contexts "VJAM" looking at my screenshot).

The 6 in your photo, taking into account that it is a 1991 photo and thus pre ENT92A, represents only a lethal threat  (don't compare it to the meaning you get on DCS of that same symbology as it is wrong in DCS).

[Ahmed]

And another (probably spurious) JAM cue in a random BFM YT video by pure coincidence.

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