Question about LMAV employment

[Czechnology]

Having some issues when trying to practice for it. Not sure if I'm just botching something or if this is how it's meant to be.

Every time I deselect the LMAVS they have to go through their lengthy STBY phase,  is that normal? It's quite annoying because the TPOD automatically deselects them when bringing it up.

I know only the E2 mav can be self lased.

Second, how do I self lase if I have to do the warm up every single time? Like I said, when trying to bring up the TPOD, it deselects the LMAV and I have to go through the process again. It seems incredibly unwieldy if that's normal.

[zildac]

1 hour ago, Czechnology said:

Having some issues when trying to practice for it. Not sure if I'm just botching something or if this is how it's meant to be.

Every time I deselect the LMAVS they have to go through their lengthy STBY phase,  is that normal? It's quite annoying because the TPOD automatically deselects them when bringing it up.

I know only the E2 mav can be self lased.

Second, how do I self lase if I have to do the warm up every single time? Like I said, when trying to bring up the TPOD, it deselects the LMAV and I have to go through the process again. It seems incredibly unwieldy if that's normal.

Are you using the LMAV listed as Large Warhead? If so, you can't self lase using those...try the LMavs listed as CCD (sorry not in front of DCS at the minute so can't remember the specifics). I think you used to be able to self lase with these, hence the reason some older missions still have them loaded, even though you need a JTAC or similar to lase for you now. This drove me nuts!!

Edited May 31, 2022 by zildac

[Ramsay]

1 hour ago, Czechnology said:

It seems incredibly unwieldy if that's normal.

What's said is, that adding the TPOD to the Harrier was a bit of a hack and when the TPOD is powered up, the weapons system treats the TPOD as a A-G Missile, so powers off other missiles with video, hence the need to power the LMAVS backup.

This can be avoided if you ensure that
1. TPOD is selected and powered up first (RHMFD)
2. then the LMAV is selected and powered up on the SMS page (LHMFD)
3. find the target using the TPOD as usual, TDC depress to designate a target point, then self-lase
4. SSS forward long, to see the LMAV's video feed replace the TPOD on the RHMFD before firing the LMAV

Chuck's Guide says the E2 requires 30s to spin up it's gyros, so that's 4 nm @ 480 KTAS (unless somethings changed), so you should likely have this all setup to go at your ingress point.

Note

The DCS AV-8B's TPOD logic is said to be WIP but the aim is less to improve "usability" but rather to model it's idiosyncrasies, which apparently still isn't quite right in DCS.

Edited May 31, 2022 by Ramsay

[Dr_Pavelheer]

You don't need the LMAV feed, just uncage it and wait for the lock, you will get proper symbology on HUD

[zildac]

You still haven't said which LMAV you are using. If it's the Large Warhead variant...irrespective, you can't self lase.

Edited May 31, 2022 by zildac

[Czechnology]

5 hours ago, zildac said:

You still haven't said which LMAV you are using. If it's the Large Warhead variant...irrespective, you can't self lase.

 

I've doubled checked the LMAV is the correct variant, the E2, not just the flat E.
 

 

7 hours ago, Dr_Pavelheer said:

You don't need the LMAV feed, just uncage it and wait for the lock, you will get proper symbology on HUD

Thought the LMAV feed was the problem, this was the answer, appreciated.

Though I still have the question, do I have to "spool up" the missiles every time I want to engage a target? I know I have to do it atleast once, but more mean is it necessary for every time I happen to deselect it to look at something else like my map.

Edited May 31, 2022 by Czechnology

[Dr_Pavelheer]

As long as missile is selected for instance on that panel with buttons below left MFD you're good to go, I'm not sure but I think switching master modes also deselects weapons.