ED can you give us a option to change "Units" in flight?

[-Relax-]

I mean when on F10 map and make the lines and get either metric or imperial system.

Also the Editor Icon Style would kinda nice to be able to switch without need to go back to main menu while on a multiplayer server or so.


I think lot of people would like that option instead have to get in the main menu to switch it.

[Northstar98]

You can use the mission editor to change the units, but +1, even better would be the option to have them automatically selected based on the aircraft in focus.

[-Relax-]

6 hours ago, Northstar98 said:

even better would be the option to have them automatically selected based on the aircraft in focus.

Would be already big step forward, but not only this pls.
Let´s say you are on a multiplayer or so and have combined arms to give some GCI. Sometimes you have Aircrafts using both systems on same side.
So i would much like an option direct in the F10 Map, a new symbol where you can switch direct between metric/imperial.

[Exorcet]

6 hours ago, Northstar98 said:

You can use the mission editor to change the units, but +1, even better would be the option to have them automatically selected based on the aircraft in focus.

Having units change all the time doesn't sound that useful, but maybe I misunderstood your suggestion. I'd rather have constant US units since metric/km is much harder to interpret.

[-Relax-]

@ExorcetIf you want all time imperial system you can have this already as you probably know.
We want just more "options".

What Northstar98 mean is a option in the main menu where can say DCS to automaticly give you the "correct" system to the aircraft you slot on. 
So when activate such a option and you go slot in a SU27 you will get automaticly metric system on F10 map. 
And when slot in F-16 you will get automaticly imperial system on F10 map.

And still i would wish on top of that a option to switch direct on F10 map between both by clicking on a new symbol for example

[Northstar98]

19 minutes ago, -Relax- said:

Let´s say you are on a multiplayer or so and have combined arms to give some GCI. Sometimes you have Aircrafts using both systems on same side.

If I'm playing as a GCI I can always use the right units for whatever aircraft, so pilots don't have to do any conversion.

The F10 ruler would automatically adjust for the aircraft in focus (or in this case, selected on the F10 map) so the GCI wouldn't have to do any conversion either.

The only area where this faulters is when trying to give altitudes, but that could be easily rectified by having something whereby you click on the aircraft you want to select, which then changes the units and then when you click on the target, it keeps the units of the aircraft being directed.

19 minutes ago, -Relax- said:

So i would much like an option direct in the F10 Map, a new symbol where you can switch direct between metric/imperial.

Yes, that should happen, especially as it's already implemented in the mission editor.

16 minutes ago, Exorcet said:

Having units change all the time doesn't sound that useful, but maybe I misunderstood your suggestion.

As I said above, to me this would be even more useful and time saving when I have aircraft with mixed unit systems on one side, as I can always use the correct units for whatever aircraft I'm directing without needing to repetively make manual switches or do manual conversions.

Let's say I'm a GCI and I'm directing a Hornet and a Viggen.

When I click on the Hornet I'm directing, it would switch the units to be appropriate to the Hornet, so when I use the ruler it gives be ranges in nautical miles, if I want an altitude I would then click on my target and it would give me the altitude in feet.

If I then click on the Viggen to direct that, the units would switch to metric and the same thing again.

This way I'm always using the right units with no need to make any manual conversions for either me or the pilots of the 2 aircraft.

16 minutes ago, Exorcet said:

I'd rather have constant US units since metric/km is much harder to interpret.

Well, I did say option, but I didn't mean it to be as opposed to an overriding selection, much like the mission editor. Perhaps options like "auto", "metric" and "imperial/US".

But if I'm working in feet and nautical miles, that's useless to aircraft that use metres and km (requiring manual conversion to be done) and vice versa for aircraft that use natical miles and feet.

Edited September 23, 2022 by Northstar98

[Northstar98]

15 minutes ago, -Relax- said:

What Northstar98 mean is a option in the main menu where can say DCS to automaticly give you the "correct" system to the aircraft you slot on. 
So when activate such a option and you go slot in a SU27 you will get automaticly metric system on F10 map. 
And when slot in F-16 you will get automaticly imperial system on F10 map.

Basically, but not necessarily what you slot in as - more the aircraft in focus.

If I'm in an aircraft using metric, then in the infobar and F10 map it should give me metric units. If I'm a GCI (using the game master or observer slots) then the units would change based on what aircraft I have selected.

So when I click on an aircraft I wish to direct, it would adjust the units for that aircraft. I'd then click on a target and be able to see appropriate units for the aircraft being directed.

But yes, this should be in addition to an overriding selection for metric or imperial.

Edited September 23, 2022 by Northstar98

[-Relax-]

2 minutes ago, Northstar98 said:

 

Let's say I'm a GCI and I'm directing a Hornet and a Viggen.

When I click on the Hornet I'm directing, it would switch the units to be appropriate to the Hornet, so when I use the ruler it gives be ranges in nautical miles, if I want an altitude I would then click on my target and it would give me the altitude in feet.

If I then click on the Viggen to direct that, the units would switch to metric and the same thing again.

 

This option would be also great, probably even better!
Important of course the step after click on friendly hornet using imperial -> click target aircraft using metric system, it will still show imperial for the target. Not sure if this possible by switching a lot aircrafts, but if its working this would be cool.

[Exorcet]

Alright I see what you meant now, I wasn't looking at it from the perspective of an air controller/GCI.

Granted even if I was flying a metric aircraft, ft and miles would still be of more use to me unless I could directly correlate km/m to sensors or something (basically if I can see it on radar which reads in km, km is useful, but if you're warning me about something I can't see on the radar (or if I had no radar at all), I'd be able to figure out roughly where it was faster if given the distance in nmi), but that is a me problem.

[Northstar98]

Just now, -Relax- said:

This option would be also great, probably even better!
Important of course the step after click on friendly hornet using imperial -> click target aircraft using metric system, it will still show imperial for the target. Not sure if this possible by switching a lot aircrafts, but if its working this would be cool.

What it should do is take the number of clicks into account, it would expect you to click on a unit to be directed and a target unit. Once you've done that (i.e 2 clicks) it would clear the selection, allowing the cycle to repeat.

DCS itself already does this with some controls - on older modules if you reach a switch's endpoint and you click it once more, it returns back to the start - it's more or less exactly the same principle here.

5 minutes ago, Exorcet said:

Alright I see what you meant now, I wasn't looking at it from the perspective of an air controller/GCI.

Granted even if I was flying a metric aircraft, ft and miles would still be of more use to me unless I could directly correlate km/m to sensors or something (basically if I can see it on radar which reads in km, km is useful, but if you're warning me about something I can't see on the radar (or if I had no radar at all), I'd be able to figure out roughly where it was faster if given the distance in nmi), but that is a me problem.

Yeah, if you're just piloting an aircraft, then you'll probably just want whatever your preferred units of measurement are, in which case it would probably reflect what you've got set in the settings - imperial/metric.

Though I still support the OP's wish to have that setting in the F10 map, in much the same fashion as the mission editor.

[upyr1]

cool