Where exactly MP guys will fly upcoming Corsair and La7?

[Tvrdi]

Dont get me wrong, Im excited about new warbirds BUT...normandy have, more or less completed all the major fighters of the battle so thata why we have (and could have) a nice MP server. But releasing the two mentioned above doesnt make any sense for MP. Or those modules are just for SP ppl to have fun on whatever map they have?

[Silver_Dragon]

ED has making free WW2 Marianas map to PTO...

Meanwile, missing someone 3rd party, build a East Front map, but remember, Octopus-G was release some years ago the I-16 type 24 without a map.

[Hunter Joker]

Dont get me wrong, Im excited about new warbirds BUT...normandy have, more or less completed all the major fighters of the battle so thata why we have (and could have) a nice MP server. But releasing the two mentioned above doesnt make any sense for MP. Or those modules are just for SP ppl to have fun on whatever map they have?

Actually (marginally) Corsair had some action in Royal Navy carriers in the west part of the Normandy Theater. For La-7 we could hope in some map, meanwhile every warbirds that come will be a news in my opinion.

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[OLD CROW]

9 minutes ago, Silver_Dragon said:

ED has making free WW2 Marianas map to PTO...

Is it going to be with the same "LOD-hardware performance killer" like the original Marianas map? I remind you that Marianas are one of the most "unpopular" map to play MP due multiple reasons, but performance is one of the most imprtant elements if you want to offer a decent MP experience..... and VR users are not mentioned here....

21 minutes ago, Silver_Dragon said:

Meanwile, missing someone 3rd party, build a East Front map, but remember, Octopus-G was release some years ago the I-16 type 24 without a map.

Meanwhile ppl is going to use the Caucasus map... as we've been doing for more than a decade (decade means "your Meanwhile") for hardware/software performance, proximity and historical reasons ( Battle of Kuban).... cause an LA-7 in Marianas (actual or WW2 map) is like a penguin in the Pyramids. 

The main problem here is not where to fly the new upcoming models is there's no natural opponents in the actual plane set, also there's no announcement of "anything" planned for short-mid term, and there's ppl that like to fly & fight.... and most of them fly MP.... and most of them (I'm included) like to fight with opponents that "match" (too much time suffering the Bf109 K-4 (late 1944) vs. Spitfire Mk.IX (early 1943) problem).

We can own a superb I-16 or a superb La-7 (all my best whises to Octopus-G), but with no context surrounding it will become just another A/C for "sunday flyers" doing pleasure flights like in a TF-51. I perfectly know there's a lot of ppl with their own multiple interests and for sure Gods of software are going to please those with money burning in their pockets anxious of giving it with no restrictions,.... but when part of the name of your product contains the word COMBAT it should means anything to get in consideration.   

[Silver_Dragon]

1 minute ago, OLD CROW said:

Is it going to be with the same "LOD-hardware performance killer" like the original Marianas map? I remind you that Marianas are one of the most "unpopular" map to play MP due multiple reasons, but performance is one of the most imprtant elements if you want to offer a decent MP experience..... and VR users are not mentioned here....

Remember ED has working on Vulkan, Multitread, the incoming 2.8 with weather update "FPS frendly"... all taking your time... as improve exiting and future maps.

1 minute ago, OLD CROW said:

Meanwhile ppl is going to use the Caucasus map... as we've been doing for more than a decade (decade means "your Meanwhile") for hardware/software performance, proximity and historical reasons ( Battle of Kuban).... cause an LA-7 in Marianas (actual or WW2 map) is like a penguin in the Pyramids. 

The main problem here is not where to fly the new upcoming models is there's no natural opponents in the actual plane set, also there's no announcement of "anything" planned for short-mid term, and there's ppl that like to fly & fight.... and most of them fly MP.... and most of them (I'm included) like to fight with opponents that "match" (too much time suffering the Bf109 K-4 (late 1944) vs. Spitfire Mk.IX (early 1943) problem).

We can own a superb I-16 or a superb La-7 (all my best whises to Octopus-G), but with no context surrounding it will become just another A/C for "sunday flyers" doing pleasure flights like in a TF-51. I perfectly know there's a lot of ppl with their own multiple interests and for sure Gods of software are going to please those with money burning in their pockets anxious of giving it with no restrictions,.... but when part of the name of your product contains the word COMBAT it should means anything to get in consideration.   

If some like a "natural oponents" and "natural maps" need build 3rd parties with add more content into DCS World, dont force to other 3rd parties or ED to change your plans, about a "where are my east front"... Octopus-G building aircrafts modules, no maps or assets packs without propper maps or assets teams. ED turn to "east front" when your plans turn to that environment, meanwhile has other plans, as the PTO.

[OLD CROW]

38 minutes ago, Silver_Dragon said:

dont force to other 3rd parties or ED to change your plans

I'm not forcing to ANYONE to change their "plans".... I'm just pointing out them what is the actual situation related with WW2. I don't mind what "are" their "What If... future plans". if you want to white knight them.... go on! you have a lot of hard competence in this forum. The problem is that they want to be everywhere like God but in fact they've been nowhere for years with or without FPS friendly techs or with already in market maps, that's what the OP initially pointed out and She/He's fully right.

[Rudel_chw]

2 hours ago, OLD CROW said:

We can own a superb I-16 or a superb La-7 (all my best whises to Octopus-G), but with no context surrounding it will become just another A/C for "sunday flyers"

Dont want to speak for other players, and I agree with you about the lack of context on vanilla DCS, but as a single player I employ lots of user Mods in order to get AI opponents or Targets for my missions .. and, yes, there is combat in them. I’m not really a "sunday flyer" as I fly DCS almost daily, and look forward tonlearn the nuances of these warbirds … so glad to have abandoned the MP scene, it is far too limiting to really enjoy DCS the way I enjoy it now.

[OLD CROW]

1 hour ago, Rudel_chw said:

I’m not really a "sunday flyer" as I fly DCS almost daily, and look forward tonlearn the nuances of these warbirds … so glad to have abandoned the MP scene, it is far too limiting to really enjoy DCS the way I enjoy it now.

All my blessings to you in your way to find Shangri-La, but you like me and a lot of other customers/players worldwide downloaded a product with multiple options for Single Player also for Multi Player. It's only up to the customer, in her/his "Free Will" choose one way the other way or both, but talking here about modding, with all my respects for all mod comunity, is out of sight in this thread. The official product is very, very limited and you have already given yourself the answer adding "non official" patches to their "official" very limited product. And the only who is limiting himself here it's you wrongly thinking AI's can help you in a better way than other human opponents in mastering BFM. Maybe AI can help you to master your A/C in some controlled conditions but BFM against humans is the definitive game changer to your own learning curve: AI reacts to your countable ingame inputs, human opponents react to their learnt skills also to the feelings in their guts. You CAN perform a lot of positive things in SP, don't get me wrong, but you CANNOT perform this in SP.... you really need another "being" for performing this: Go to 5:37 if you want to skip part of the vid. 

 

 

[Rudel_chw]

3 hours ago, OLD CROW said:

the only who is limiting himself here it's you wrongly thinking AI's can help you in a better way than other human opponents in mastering BFM

 

Maybe I won't be mastering BFM then, but you really think that not mastering BFM means I "will become just another A/C for "sunday flyers"" ... really? 

I tried MP for a year and a half, and quickly realized that it wasn't really my thing .. having to share my play time with other people had a lot of downsides .. I really wanted to enjoy MP, but I ended up realizing that playing by myself was simply more enjoyable

... to me, if you enjoy it then I'm glad for you, but please don't rain on other people's preferences, if you don't want a Corsair or a La-7 ... then what are you doing on a thread like this?

[OLD CROW]

1 hour ago, Rudel_chw said:

Maybe I won't be mastering BFM then, but you really think that not mastering BFM means I "will become just another A/C for "sunday flyers"" ... really? 

I've never said neither insinuated you that. If you understood whatever you wanted to understand it's only in your head. But don't put your thoughts like if they were my words.

1 hour ago, Rudel_chw said:

... to me, if you enjoy it then I'm glad for you, but please don't rain on other people's preferences, if you don't want a Corsair or a La-7 ... then what are you doing on a thread like this?

Again you're not only wrong understanding, you're also wrong twisting things. I haven't said I want this or I don't want that, please recheck my previous posts and whatever I do in a thread like this has been revealed in all those previous posts, but due you hadn't understood or you hadn't wanted to understand them I answer you now: I'm giving my opinion about Multiplayer and WW2 modules, like the rest of people, OP included. May we? 

[Rudel_chw]

1 hour ago, OLD CROW said:

May we? 

 

OK.