Vetic Posted January 18, 2009 Posted January 18, 2009 Make sure that you have current TrackIR 4 software, let it unistalle old apps. In control option delete all mouse axes( use for clickable cockpit any ways ). Make sure trackIr axes are tuned to usercurve option and adjust as desired.
Rimmer Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 Mine didn't work at 1st. (CH Fighterstick, CH Pro peddles, XP Pro 32bit. 8800 GT 512, Dual Quad core 2.4 G.) Updated driver to Version 45200 Updated games. Even though I use Track Clip Pro I have "Vector" and "True View" checked in the "Motion" options. Made sure all Axis were enabled. Launched DCS and TrackIR works great. The Hot keys that are assigned to the TrackIR are not recognized by DSC so I could not use for the game so had to find unused keys for my hot keys. Hope this helps FixerOhio
FixerOhio Posted January 19, 2009 Author Posted January 19, 2009 Rimmer: Thanks for the input! Which driver are you referring toward with Version 45200? That for your CH Products? I've done most of what you mention. Odd thing is that the TIR shows up fine in the options menu for axis in BS. Tried disabling the hotkeys in TIR to eliminate that but it didn't help. Went so far as to nuke my system and start from scratch again. That's right, reformatted and reinstalled XP just to try to resolve this issue. Spent hours and hours doing this yesterday. Besides XP and driver updates, I did not install anything else except TIR and BS. Guess what? Same thing! Arggggg! And I tried all the things that Naturalpoint suggested. Did all the TIR updates, tried various USB ports, disabled XP power management of USB ports. Again TIR shows up in BS option menu but no go. Does everyone else's BS minimize several times prior to launching a mission? Example: I'm on the menu screen with logbook, options, mission select, etc. I hit the instant action button. The menu screen vanishes and I briefly see my desktop. A full screen loading screen pops up and gives me a progress bar (loading trees, etc). A few seconds later, that loading screen minimizes and another pops up. With progress bar, etc. It's at about the 50% point during this loading that my TIR blue light extinguishes. There has to be something loading during that second phase that kicks my TIR out. If I alt tab out at that point, my TIR has an "unhandled error" and is dead in the water. Perhaps if I try setting all my BS graphic options to minimum and testing. Must be something in the loading that affects TIR. I'll beat this one way or the other. :cry:
LIONPRIDE Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 . I know it sounds stupid, but I had a similar problem for a few days. I fixed it by cleaning the silver reflectors on my hat. Oil and crap on them can obstruct the view. I used windex ... :D . You sound desperate ... give it a shot. . - - - - - - - - TO FLY IS HEAVEN. TO HOVER IS DIVINE - - - - - - [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Rimmer Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 FixerOhio, the # 45200 is what my trackIR displays on its main page as "TrackIR Pro : 45200". The latest Driver for it is 4.1.036 ,. Once I downloaded the updated driver it also still would not work untill I did the TrackIR Pro "Game Update", then I was able to use it. Question then is what is the latest Driver you installed for the Track IR and AFTER installing the update did you then do the "Check for Game Updates" from the menu bar "Update"?" . I can understand your frustration there. But many times I have either missed a step or did it in the wrong order. Hope this helps.
FixerOhio Posted January 19, 2009 Author Posted January 19, 2009 Lionpride; Good thought but I've tried both the reflector and Track Clip Pro and it responds the same with either. Will clean the reflectors and give it a go however. Rimmer: I understand what you mean by 45200 now. My device number is different however but the software is the 4.1.036 version and I did the game update from the menu bar. Black Shark profile shows up in the profile list. And I don't change it in any way. And the trackIR shows up in the Black Shark axis menu under options. It surely sees it but there is something goind on during the loading portion of a mission that generates an error with my TIR. Normally it's a cameradll.dll error. Maybe it's our Russian friends getting back at me for being in the USAF on the west side of the wall at Bitburg and Ramstein Air Bases in Germany for 15 years during the Cold War. LOL. Hope not. Have lots of great Russian friends in Ohio now. Glad it worked out that way. Thanks again to all. About ready to throw in the towel. Out of ideas.
Shrubbo Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 . I know it sounds stupid, but I had a similar problem for a few days. I fixed it by cleaning the silver reflectors on my hat. Oil and crap on them can obstruct the view. I used windex ... :D . You sound desperate ... give it a shot. . Heh strangely enough I was just having "range" problems with my Tir. Half a meter distance + between the camera and the reflectors and jerky response sort of range problems. I blasted the reflectors with windex as well and everything is perfect again :) i9-9900K,Z390 Aorus Master, 32GB GSkill Trident F4-3600 DDR4, ROG Strix RTX 2080 Ti, Oculus Rift S. Thrustmaster Warthog T&S, TPR Pedals.
Bonkers Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) TrackIR (with the reflectors) was working fine, so I set about messing with the profiles to increase the range of movement in the profile I was using for Black Shark. I noticed when editing this profile that the tracking was set to Vector so I promptly changed it to Track Clip Pro erroneously thinking (I am old) that was what I was using. Ran up Black Shark and lo and behold TrackIR not working. Edit the profile to set Tracking back to Vector, into Black Shark and all's well again. Make sure that the profile Black Shark uses has the Tracking set to Vector when you are using reflectors. You will see at the bottom of the TrackIR window "Tracking: Vector" regardless of whether you have selected within the profile Track Clip Pro or Vector. Edited January 20, 2009 by Bonkers
Bonkers Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 One other point (which you are probably aware of) use the Preview Windows Heads option when editing the profile, if it ain't working in the preview it won't work in the game. Good luck.
FixerOhio Posted January 20, 2009 Author Posted January 20, 2009 Bonkers; more valid ideas, thanks. But I've tried both the reflectors (set to vector) and the pro clip (set to pro clip). I almost always have the tracking and head preview windows open and all works/tests well. The TIR works perfectly in several of my other sims too. Not with Black Shark however. I start TIR, verify its operation, start BS and sadly watch as TIR gets dumped during the loading of BS. It's like something in BS loads that conflicts with the TIR somehow. But I've altered neither of the programs and it's obvious that TIR works great BS for so many people.
NaturalPoint_Vince Posted January 21, 2009 Posted January 21, 2009 Look at trying different video card drivers. Support@NaturalPoint.com TrackIR - Put your head in the game http://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/index.html
FixerOhio Posted January 22, 2009 Author Posted January 22, 2009 Can certainly do that but how would it affect the TIR cameradll.dll? I'm running the latest nVidia drivers from their website. Prior to me reinstalling Window the other evening, I was running the graphic driver version just prior to the latest. Can't recall the version number as I'm posting from work and don't have access. Was hoping to hear from one of the developers concerning how the loading of the sim progresses. The program minimizes several times during the loading process and was wondering how or why that occurs. My other games/sims don't do that to that to that extent. As a thought, I tried enabling and disabling system swap/virtual file (I have 4 GB RAM and don't normally enable the swap file) but that had no effect either. Will try working with graphics drivers but I'm not hopeful. Thanks again for trying.
FixerOhio Posted January 28, 2009 Author Posted January 28, 2009 SOLVED! Color me dumb. SOLVED!! Color me totally stupid for not trying this in the first place but I finally resolved this issue. All I had to do was minimize TIR prior to launching Black Shark. With every other sim, I just left TIR maxamized so I could see the tracking and heads views. The other sims ran fine with TIR like this. But BS goes through some loading process that would kill TIR just prior to acutally entering the actual sim mode. Kicked TIR off. Just for grins, I minimized TIR prior to launching BS and viola, works like it should. I'm very embarassed for not trying this sooner. Thanks to all those who made suggestions. Was nothing wrong with my machine, USB ports, game or TIR. Lesson learned!!
Biggles07 Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 SOLVED!! Color me totally stupid for not trying this in the first place but I finally resolved this issue. All I had to do was minimize TIR prior to launching Black Shark. With every other sim, I just left TIR maxamized so I could see the tracking and heads views. The other sims ran fine with TIR like this. But BS goes through some loading process that would kill TIR just prior to acutally entering the actual sim mode. Kicked TIR off. Just for grins, I minimized TIR prior to launching BS and viola, works like it should. I'm very embarassed for not trying this sooner. Thanks to all those who made suggestions. Was nothing wrong with my machine, USB ports, game or TIR. Lesson learned!! Hehehe, was just about to suggest that mate I was wracking my brains for you thinking what the problem could be as everything seemed to be in order, and I assumed you already had it minimised.......*note to self* Assume nothing, and remember Occam's Razor!!! Glad to hear you're sorted out then......"Alls well that ends well" :thumbup: ♫ ' Papa was a hairy mole.....Wherever he dug a den was his home ' ♫
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