Opponents keep breaking the hard deck

[sthompson]

Looking at this forum it seems this campaign hasn't gotten much love of late. I've been going through the first few missions to see if I can improve my dogfighting skills against the AI. I found the F-14A  to be the most difficult opponent so far due to its incredible turning. However I'm finding I often can't get a kill on most of the others because they dive for the deck and break the hard deck whenever I get close to being on their six. This terminates the engagement. (I sometimes shoot them down anyhow, because, well why not?) I'm wondering if this behavior is due to the recent change in AI dogfighting performance. It's pretty frustrating that they don't respect the ROE.

[ataribaby]

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[Sabre-TLA]

We will propagate the same fix we did for the F-5E Aggressors BFM campaign to this one and the FA-18C Aggressors BFM campaign as well.  I'll post once the files are submitted to ED for inclusion in the next patch update.

[Sabre-TLA]

ED has added the files to the repo for the next patch update.

[trevoC]

Is there a reason my post was removed?

I had asked if the update this was included in was already released or not?

[Sabre-TLA]

No idea why your post was removed but the updates for the files were added to ED's repo on Nov 20/21st so they should be included in the next patch.

[trevoC]

Thanks, just wasn't sure if I had already received this patch or not. (If I had I was reporting that they are still hitting the hard deck). Almost finished the campaign so it won't matter but I'll re-fly one or two of them to see how the behavior is different after the patch. Thanks for the response.

[Reflected]

The new AI is more prone to take the fight down to the deck. It's impossible for mission makers to prevent them from going lower than a given altitude, so in my campaigns I just decreased the hard deck to a minimum, and now it only applies to the player who should know better than an AI.

[trevoC]

5 hours ago, Reflected said:

The new AI is more prone to take the fight down to the deck. It's impossible for mission makers to prevent them from going lower than a given altitude, so in my campaigns I just decreased the hard deck to a minimum, and now it only applies to the player who should know better than an AI.

Have definitely noticed this. I'd say about 60% of the engagements in this campaign were hard deck breaks. Also noticed a lot of other campaigns where for e.g. you are faced with 6 hostiles and 2 or 3 of them fly into the ground before you even engage them. (maybe one missile sent their way but 2 or 3 will hit the ground to avoid it). ED needs to have a look at this. The AI behavior should definitely avoid the ground before avoiding a missile. Both are bad, but one is a guaranteed rapid disassembly.

[sthompson]

11 hours ago, trevoC said:

Have definitely noticed this. I'd say about 60% of the engagements in this campaign were hard deck breaks. Also noticed a lot of other campaigns where for e.g. you are faced with 6 hostiles and 2 or 3 of them fly into the ground before you even engage them. (maybe one missile sent their way but 2 or 3 will hit the ground to avoid it). ED needs to have a look at this. The AI behavior should definitely avoid the ground before avoiding a missile. Both are bad, but one is a guaranteed rapid disassembly.

Agree. I've been playing The Georgian War campaign a lot lately and I've noticed several times where the opposing AI just flies into a mountain for no good reason.

[Sabre-TLA]

Fix is in this patch update.  Let me know how your experience goes.