Darkdiz Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 I recently created several png files for the kneeboard. Previously, these have shown up correctly, white background. However, the last set I created show up on the kneeboard with a red background, even though in any graphics program (GIMP, and of the Windows graphics apps) they show up as expected with a white background. The pngs were created by exporting a MS Word page to pdf, then exporting the pdf page as an image png. This has worked fine before, and the old ones I still have in the kneeboard folder show up correctly. The one page that DOES show correctly has an image embedded in the original file. Any ideas? Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can detect AMD Ryzen 9 3900x CPU@4.5Ghz, ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero Motherboard, 64GB Corsair Venegence DDR 3200 RAM, MSI Rtx 3060 12GB GPU, MSI Rtx 4060 8GB GPU, 40" and 37" 1920x1080 Samsung Monitor, 40" 1920x1080 Sony Monitor, 1TB Seagate Firecuda M2 PCIe 4 OS SSD, 2TB Western Digital Blue M2 PCIe 3 storage SSD, 8TB Samsung 870QVO storage SSD, Western Digital Blue 1TB storage SATA, 2x Thrustmaster T16000 (LH and RH), Warthog Joy/Throttle/TPRS, 6 x Cougar MFDs (4 with Generic VGA 800x600 displays), Track IR 5 with IR Trackstar V3, Logitech G915 Tactile Keyboard, Logitech G502 Lightspeed Mouse, Logitech G935 Headset, Next Level Racing HF8 Haptic Gaming Pad, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Soul: None (sold long ago to the MGOMU, also known as Princess)
Flappie Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 Please attach two pictures: one that shows up red and one that doesn't. ---
Darkdiz Posted December 2, 2022 Author Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) I got it to show up correctly. If the png has only 2 colours (black text, white background), in DCS the background shows up red (at least for me). I fixed it by by making some of the characters in the working png red, and now it appears normally. Weird in that in all of the other graphics programs the png appears normal. I'll take a screenie of both... I also attached both files. 01a shows up red on the kneeboard Edited December 2, 2022 by Darkdiz Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can detect AMD Ryzen 9 3900x CPU@4.5Ghz, ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero Motherboard, 64GB Corsair Venegence DDR 3200 RAM, MSI Rtx 3060 12GB GPU, MSI Rtx 4060 8GB GPU, 40" and 37" 1920x1080 Samsung Monitor, 40" 1920x1080 Sony Monitor, 1TB Seagate Firecuda M2 PCIe 4 OS SSD, 2TB Western Digital Blue M2 PCIe 3 storage SSD, 8TB Samsung 870QVO storage SSD, Western Digital Blue 1TB storage SATA, 2x Thrustmaster T16000 (LH and RH), Warthog Joy/Throttle/TPRS, 6 x Cougar MFDs (4 with Generic VGA 800x600 displays), Track IR 5 with IR Trackstar V3, Logitech G915 Tactile Keyboard, Logitech G502 Lightspeed Mouse, Logitech G935 Headset, Next Level Racing HF8 Haptic Gaming Pad, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Soul: None (sold long ago to the MGOMU, also known as Princess)
Flappie Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 Strange. I've been using the GIMP for more than 20 years and it never did such a thing to me. Ensure you're using PNG export default settings. Once you see this window (sorry, French GIMP), hit "Load default". ---
Darkdiz Posted December 2, 2022 Author Posted December 2, 2022 The method I use is to save the selected pages from MS Word as a pdf, then export the pdf from Adobe to png. This has always worked fine prior to today, I have created a multitude of pages for my kneeboard folder, all displayed correctly with default settings. GIMP was not involved at any time in the process. I thought it might have been a DCS setting or something in a lua file somewhere, but I noticed that one of the pages I exported rendered correctly, it had multi colours in it. I ended up making the para numbers red, and it solved the issue (or at least band-aided it) Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can detect AMD Ryzen 9 3900x CPU@4.5Ghz, ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero Motherboard, 64GB Corsair Venegence DDR 3200 RAM, MSI Rtx 3060 12GB GPU, MSI Rtx 4060 8GB GPU, 40" and 37" 1920x1080 Samsung Monitor, 40" 1920x1080 Sony Monitor, 1TB Seagate Firecuda M2 PCIe 4 OS SSD, 2TB Western Digital Blue M2 PCIe 3 storage SSD, 8TB Samsung 870QVO storage SSD, Western Digital Blue 1TB storage SATA, 2x Thrustmaster T16000 (LH and RH), Warthog Joy/Throttle/TPRS, 6 x Cougar MFDs (4 with Generic VGA 800x600 displays), Track IR 5 with IR Trackstar V3, Logitech G915 Tactile Keyboard, Logitech G502 Lightspeed Mouse, Logitech G935 Headset, Next Level Racing HF8 Haptic Gaming Pad, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Soul: None (sold long ago to the MGOMU, also known as Princess)
Flappie Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) Oh OK, then it's Adobe (Writer?) which compresses PNGs too much. I'm pretty sure DCS handles 16bit and 8bits PNGs OK. I'll do some tests and report back. Edited December 2, 2022 by Flappie ---
Flappie Posted December 2, 2022 Posted December 2, 2022 Here you go: your black & white picture has a color depth of 1, while the red/black/white one has a standard color depth of 24. ---
Darkdiz Posted December 2, 2022 Author Posted December 2, 2022 Ok, so I guess its in the Adobe export? Just make it more colour depth? Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can detect AMD Ryzen 9 3900x CPU@4.5Ghz, ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero Motherboard, 64GB Corsair Venegence DDR 3200 RAM, MSI Rtx 3060 12GB GPU, MSI Rtx 4060 8GB GPU, 40" and 37" 1920x1080 Samsung Monitor, 40" 1920x1080 Sony Monitor, 1TB Seagate Firecuda M2 PCIe 4 OS SSD, 2TB Western Digital Blue M2 PCIe 3 storage SSD, 8TB Samsung 870QVO storage SSD, Western Digital Blue 1TB storage SATA, 2x Thrustmaster T16000 (LH and RH), Warthog Joy/Throttle/TPRS, 6 x Cougar MFDs (4 with Generic VGA 800x600 displays), Track IR 5 with IR Trackstar V3, Logitech G915 Tactile Keyboard, Logitech G502 Lightspeed Mouse, Logitech G935 Headset, Next Level Racing HF8 Haptic Gaming Pad, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Soul: None (sold long ago to the MGOMU, also known as Princess)
Solution Flappie Posted December 2, 2022 Solution Posted December 2, 2022 Yes. Check your Adobe software. When about to save as PNG, you should be able to select between compression levels. ---
Darkdiz Posted December 2, 2022 Author Posted December 2, 2022 Well done. I adjusted the Adobe export setting to make the png colourspace RGB instead of auto. Worked fine. Thanks for the quick response Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can detect AMD Ryzen 9 3900x CPU@4.5Ghz, ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero Motherboard, 64GB Corsair Venegence DDR 3200 RAM, MSI Rtx 3060 12GB GPU, MSI Rtx 4060 8GB GPU, 40" and 37" 1920x1080 Samsung Monitor, 40" 1920x1080 Sony Monitor, 1TB Seagate Firecuda M2 PCIe 4 OS SSD, 2TB Western Digital Blue M2 PCIe 3 storage SSD, 8TB Samsung 870QVO storage SSD, Western Digital Blue 1TB storage SATA, 2x Thrustmaster T16000 (LH and RH), Warthog Joy/Throttle/TPRS, 6 x Cougar MFDs (4 with Generic VGA 800x600 displays), Track IR 5 with IR Trackstar V3, Logitech G915 Tactile Keyboard, Logitech G502 Lightspeed Mouse, Logitech G935 Headset, Next Level Racing HF8 Haptic Gaming Pad, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Soul: None (sold long ago to the MGOMU, also known as Princess)
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