HAVING A PROBLEM COMPLETING MISSION 13? TIPS VIDEO

[Badger633]

If you are having a problem completing Mission 13 this tips video may help. 

Spoiler

If you are having difficulty taking out the second moving vehicle this video will help : 

 

 

[Roosterfeet]

Thanks for posting that. I flew the mission once and had to gun the second ground target. Then had a landing mishap and had to try again (I swear for some reason the ramp wants to eat me in that mission). Second attempt I took Laser Mavericks instead and had much better luck. I noticed that the pointer is also designating one target on 1688 so I killed that one and changed my code for the second. 

BTW, is ACLS set up in mission 13? I like to use the ACLS tadpole to land at night but couldn't get it to work. Not sure if the problem is me or the mission.

 

[Badger633]

3 hours ago, Roosterfeet said:

Thanks for posting that. I flew the mission once and had to gun the second ground target. Then had a landing mishap and had to try again (I swear for some reason the ramp wants to eat me in that mission). Second attempt I took Laser Mavericks instead and had much better luck. I noticed that the pointer is also designating one target on 1688 so I killed that one and changed my code for the second. 

BTW, is ACLS set up in mission 13? I like to use the ACLS tadpole to land at night but couldn't get it to work. Not sure if the problem is me or the mission.

 

Yes ACLS is set up on the ABE in this mission so not sure what has happened. (not on the Truman though) easy to land on the wrong one.

If you use technique as shown will hit with Mav F every time.

Yes of course the carrier in mission 13 has not been fed for months

[MarcT-NL]

Weird. I got a mission fail as soon as I started the CAP. I just arrived at WP2 and wanted to hold there until I was called in. Didn't say what I did wrong.

Edited January 20, 2023 by MarcT-NL

[Badger633]

17 minutes ago, MarcT-NL said:

Weird. I got a mission fail as soon as I started the CAP. I just arrived at WP2 and wanted to hold there until I was called in. Didn't say what I did wrong.

 

Hi

Have you got a Tacview of your flight so I can check out what happened exactly. Don’t understand how you didn’t get a message as all the fails come with an explanation , are you sure you didn’t miss it?

Also noted you said you were going to hold at WP2 but there you are directed by Strike to commence CAP as fragged. This in the brief puts you over the city.   It could be if you have incorrectly orbited over WP2 you may have drifted to far from coast such that you have strayed into a fail zone. Do you think this could be the case?

[MarcT-NL]

Ah yes. I found what I did wrong. I was holding over the island, circling in and out of the CAP-zone.
So doing CAP over the city works. But then there is another issue.

Spoiler

1] Often (not always) Sting flight gets the order to break and attack the grounded Sukhois. They commit to the order and announce their departure, however, they remain in formation. The ydon't do enything. So there the mission stops. Even if I gun down the 2 Sukhois myself, the mission dosnot progress

2] If Sting actually kills the Sukhois, my next order is to find and attack 2 Tigers. Now I'm not sure if I'm supposed to kill one after the other. But since they were so close together, I killed them both in one run. After that the radio-conversations go mental. Many messages at the same time or in the wrong order, many messages cut short. The last message is that "somebody" turned on their headlights and that that was his last mistake. However: i couldn't find any targets moving anywhere. Not even with the tip you gave in the beginning. So didn't know what to do.

If this is correct that means there are 3 tigers to be killed ?  I only have 2 mavs...  Alright. I'm going to try to kill one after the other. See if that's the trick.

 

[Badger633]

On 1/22/2023 at 11:05 AM, MarcT-NL said:

Ah yes. I found what I did wrong. I was holding over the island, circling in and out of the CAP-zone.
So doing CAP over the city works. But then there is another issue.

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1] Often (not always) Sting flight gets the order to break and attack the grounded Sukhois. They commit to the order and announce their departure, however, they remain in formation. The ydon't do enything. So there the mission stops. Even if I gun down the 2 Sukhois myself, the mission dosnot progress

2] If Sting actually kills the Sukhois, my next order is to find and attack 2 Tigers. Now I'm not sure if I'm supposed to kill one after the other. But since they were so close together, I killed them both in one run. After that the radio-conversations go mental. Many messages at the same time or in the wrong order, many messages cut short. The last message is that "somebody" turned on their headlights and that that was his last mistake. However: i couldn't find any targets moving anywhere. Not even with the tip you gave in the beginning. So didn't know what to do.

If this is correct that means there are 3 tigers to be killed ?  I only have 2 mavs...  Alright. I'm going to try to kill one after the other. See if that's the trick.

 

Yes kill one tiger at a time otherwise the triggers will overlap. Will check out the other things. Most important are you running any mods or say voice attack? These can have an impact on the AI currently.

EDIT: Just flew the mission. Sting did attack ground targets as scripted. As requested do you have an mods running even things like voice attack as these can impact AI at the moment.

Edited January 23, 2023 by Badger633

[MarcT-NL]

Yeah, I finnished the mission now. I even forgot the NVG's so I couldn't see the sparkle. By pure luck I found the convoy so it went well.

I do have voice attack, but without viacom

[Badger633]

3 hours ago, MarcT-NL said:

Yeah, I finnished the mission now. I even forgot the NVG's so I couldn't see the sparkle. By pure luck I found the convoy so it went well.

I do have voice attack, but without viacom

Well done, hope you enjoyed the campaign. Yes there is some weird stuff going on with EDs AI at the moment, mods can impact and one pilot found voice attack was a problem. Hopefully ED will get it sorted.

[Pyrocumulous]

Is there really an IR sparkle in this mission or is it just headlights? I would think you'd be able to see that with the ATFLIR IR, but I can only see headlights, which are visible in ATFLIR TV and NVGs. Maybe it's a DCS 2.8.3.37556 MT issue?

I didn't have too much trouble locking onto the moving vehicle, probably because I got him before the streetlights, but the parked one... not so easy! The darned mav locks onto all of those warm things around the target but not that one. I swear! I ended up getting my right horizontal stabilizer shot off getting close enough to the parked target. That became abundantly clear upon engaging flaps while attempting recovery to the Abe. I was pretty stoked to find that I was given a mission success after diverting to Ras Al Khaimah for repairs and then recovering to the Abe. Thanks for the great campaign, looking forward to see where we go next!

[Badger633]

6 hours ago, Pyrocumulous said:

Is there really an IR sparkle in this mission or is it just headlights? I would think you'd be able to see that with the ATFLIR IR, but I can only see headlights, which are visible in ATFLIR TV and NVGs. Maybe it's a DCS 2.8.3.37556 MT issue?

I didn't have too much trouble locking onto the moving vehicle, probably because I got him before the streetlights, but the parked one... not so easy! The darned mav locks onto all of those warm things around the target but not that one. I swear! I ended up getting my right horizontal stabilizer shot off getting close enough to the parked target. That became abundantly clear upon engaging flaps while attempting recovery to the Abe. I was pretty stoked to find that I was given a mission success after diverting to Ras Al Khaimah for repairs and then recovering to the Abe. Thanks for the great campaign, looking forward to see where we go next!

Hi

Yes there is a sparkle and it is visible with your gogs. If you played in MT I am not surprised it was not visible. MT has a lot of issues at the moment.

Try it in normal and you should see it. To be honest I have only tried it viewing it with the gogs as after that it is quite clear where it is especially with all the aaa coming up. 
 

I will check it myself as it will need reporting to ED. If you find the same you should report it as well. 
 

Glad you enjoyed the campaign

 

[L4key]

Finally managed to complete all the tasking!! Only problem was my ACLS landing drifted too far left and I crashed into a load of parked a/c - anyone know what may have caused this?

I’ll still do it again, but land manually

Also, while I’m here - Badger what difficulty are those migs set to? I managed but only just they seemed above average the couple of times I’ve done this.

Finally - thanks for the vid, but in the end I had to strafe the last target - that GMT is difficult to get a well handed off lock.

As usual this campaign is wonderful, like your others!

 

[Badger633]

3 hours ago, L4key said:

Finally managed to complete all the tasking!! Only problem was my ACLS landing drifted too far left and I crashed into a load of parked a/c - anyone know what may have caused this?

I’ll still do it again, but land manually

Also, while I’m here - Badger what difficulty are those migs set to? I managed but only just they seemed above average the couple of times I’ve done this.

Finally - thanks for the vid, but in the end I had to strafe the last target - that GMT is difficult to get a well handed off lock.

As usual this campaign is wonderful, like your others!

 

Hi

Glad you enjoyed the campaign

Not sure what I set the Migs at but it is always a difficult one, as pilot experience varies so much. The ideal for a player is to overcome the challenge but only just. In this mission as agreed on the radio. Concentrate on the left mig. After take out the one on the right if you get a chance but concentrate on being defensive.

Not sure what happened with the ACLS but sounds like a DCS thing.

[danos_2503]

Hey, on mission 13 now and i don't get any targets showing up on GMT radar? i see the beam thru NVG line up with targets, but nothing shows up on the GMT radar? is it because they aren't moving? Any ideas? I am useless with mavericks with out using the radar or flir to lock targets. 

[Badger633]

Hi

The targets are initially static when you take out the first one so you’re going to have to use the FLIR. The beam will direct you to where the action is and you need to find the target vehicle. It tells you what type of vehicle so look it up so you can recognise it. I have made a note that in ir these vehicles are still showing up dark, this because ED has not updated all vehicles to shine bright yet. The second target is moving. 
Hope this helps.