Missing weapon mount

[kotor633]

Hi,

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[DSplayer]

Yeah that's a known bug regarding the model arguments.

[Yannick Pancake]

as far as i know, this is a loadout which wasn't cleared, if you want to carry 2 Phoenix, you can only carry one sparrow.

[Naquaii]

This is a limitation of the payload selection process. As have been mentioned that is not a valid loadout as the front two sparrows block the phoenix pallets containing the cooling system for all phoenixes.

[kotor633]

Hi,

OK. But wouldn't it then make sense not to allow this type of payload in the mission editor? Sure, it would be easier to leave it as it is...only...if it doesn't correspond to reality...?
I've posted something similar before:

 

[Naquaii]

As I mentioned it's a limitation in DCS currently as it's really hard to add a limitation like that due to how the fuselage stations on the F-14 are designed. The system is basically designed to dismount other weapons when a weapon not compatible with them is mounted but on the F-14 there are so many combinations it's not really possible. As well as the fact that the pallets need to be removed/added.

But the simple rule for the phoenixes is that the forward fuselage pallets need to be present and (I think) also have the rails for the phoenixes. That's why you can't have only rear phoenixes.

Edited January 14, 2023 by Naquaii

[kotor633]

vor 1 Stunde schrieb Naquaii:

As I mentioned it's a limitation in DCS currently as it's really hard to add a limitation like that due to how the fuselage stations on the F-14 are designed. The system is basically designed to dismount other weapons when a weapon not compatible with them is mounted but on the F-14 there are so many combinations it's not really possible.

Okay, got it.

phoenix pallets -> That was never really clear to me before (I had never really worked my way into the module. That is now changing with Reflectet's campaigns. F-14 & Reflectet are a great combination!). Ah, okay for cooling the phoenix. Does this also affect the Phoenix mounted at stations 1B & 8B? Or just the phoenix fuselage mounted on the bottom of the F-14?

I have another question, it would be nice if someone could answer it: You have the option of adding the AIM-9P via F-14B.lua & Weapons.lua. Which I really appreciate, which is why I like the Mirage F1 so much. This gives the aerial combat a completely different note. Was the AIM-9P ever used by the American F-14? And why is only the LAU-7 mount for the 9P entered in Weapons.lua by default (yes, it's easy to unlock the 9P for the LAU-138 mount as well, I know)?

[Naquaii]

35 minutes ago, kotor633 said:

Okay, got it.

phoenix pallets -> That was never really clear to me before (I had never really worked my way into the module. That is now changing with Reflectet's campaigns. F-14 & Reflectet are a great combination!). Ah, okay for cooling the phoenix. Does this also affect the Phoenix mounted at stations 1B & 8B? Or just the phoenix fuselage mounted on the bottom of the F-14?

I have another question, it would be nice if someone could answer it: You have the option of adding the AIM-9P via F-14B.lua & Weapons.lua. Which I really appreciate, which is why I like the Mirage F1 so much. This gives the aerial combat a completely different note. Was the AIM-9P ever used by the American F-14? And why is only the LAU-7 mount for the 9P entered in Weapons.lua by default (yes, it's easy to unlock the 9P for the LAU-138 mount as well, I know)?

Yep, it's for all Phoenixes, as far as I've heard that's the reason for it being less common to carry them on the gloves as maintaining/clearing/flushing the coolant lines there being a bit of a pain.

As for the AIM-9P I think that's a USAF Sidewinder so not something the navy used.

[kotor633]

Okay. Thank you.