Jayhawk1971 Posted February 1, 2023 Posted February 1, 2023 I just flew mission 6 again, was doing well (all average) until the one-circle abeam set. Then AI-Paco went nuts. After the second merge he got behind me and launched a Sidewinder at me, which I managed to dodge/flare away. As I came around the turn, I saw him way in the distance, running away at full speed. I chased after him. Turned out he was going after an AI KC-135 which he shot down with a Sparrow. Here's the relevant part of the debriefing log, as the trackfile is probable way too big a file (saved it just in case, let me know if you need it). [27] = { ["initiatorMissionID"] = "324", ["initiator_coalition"] = 1, ["initiator_object_id"] = 16778240, ["initiator_unit_type"] = "F-14B", ["initiator_ws_type1"] = 1, ["t"] = 380.141, ["target"] = "KC135MPRS", ["targetMissionID"] = "281", ["target_coalition"] = 2, ["target_object_id"] = 16778496, ["target_unit_type"] = "KC135MPRS", ["target_ws_type1"] = 1, ["type"] = "shot", ["weapon"] = "AIM-9M", ["weapon_type"] = 1443604, }, [28] = { ["initiatorMissionID"] = "324", ["initiator_coalition"] = 1, ["initiator_object_id"] = 16778240, ["initiator_unit_type"] = "F-14B", ["initiator_ws_type1"] = 1, ["t"] = 384.771, ["target"] = "KC135MPRS", ["targetMissionID"] = "281", ["target_coalition"] = 2, ["target_object_id"] = 16778496, ["target_unit_type"] = "KC135MPRS", ["target_ws_type1"] = 1, ["type"] = "hit", ["weapon"] = "AIM-9M", ["weapon_type"] = 1443604, }, [29] = { ["initiatorMissionID"] = "281", ["initiator_coalition"] = 2, ["initiator_object_id"] = 16778496, ["initiator_unit_type"] = "KC135MPRS", ["initiator_ws_type1"] = 1, ["t"] = 384.771, ["type"] = "ai abort mission", }, [30] = { ["initiatorMissionID"] = "281", ["initiator_coalition"] = 2, ["initiator_object_id"] = 16778496, ["initiator_unit_type"] = "KC135MPRS", ["initiator_ws_type1"] = 1, ["t"] = 384.771, ["type"] = "pilot dead", }, [31] = { ["initiatorMissionID"] = "324", ["initiator_coalition"] = 1, ["initiator_object_id"] = 16778240, ["initiator_unit_type"] = "F-14B", ["initiator_ws_type1"] = 1, ["t"] = 384.771, ["target"] = "KC135MPRS", ["targetMissionID"] = "281", ["target_coalition"] = 2, ["target_object_id"] = 16778496, ["target_unit_type"] = "KC135MPRS", ["target_ws_type1"] = 1, ["type"] = "kill", ["weapon"] = "AIM-9M", ["weapon_type"] = 1812, }, [32] = { ["initiatorMissionID"] = "281", ["initiator_coalition"] = 2, ["initiator_object_id"] = 16778496, ["initiator_unit_type"] = "KC135MPRS", ["initiator_ws_type1"] = 1, ["t"] = 385.78, ["target"] = "", ["targetMissionID"] = "0", ["target_coalition"] = 2, ["target_object_id"] = 16794112, ["target_unit_type"] = "", ["target_ws_type1"] = 1, ["type"] = "eject", }, [33] = { ["initiatorMissionID"] = "281", ["initiator_coalition"] = 2, ["initiator_object_id"] = 16778496, ["initiator_unit_type"] = "KC135MPRS", ["initiator_ws_type1"] = 1, ["t"] = 386.78, ["target"] = "", ["targetMissionID"] = "0", ["target_coalition"] = 2, ["target_object_id"] = 16794880, ["target_unit_type"] = "", ["target_ws_type1"] = 1, ["type"] = "eject", }, [34] = { ["initiatorMissionID"] = "281", ["initiator_coalition"] = 2, ["initiator_object_id"] = 16778496, ["initiator_unit_type"] = "KC135MPRS", ["initiator_ws_type1"] = 1, ["t"] = 387.78, ["target"] = "", ["targetMissionID"] = "0", ["target_coalition"] = 2, ["target_object_id"] = 16795136, ["target_unit_type"] = "", ["target_ws_type1"] = 1, ["type"] = "eject", }, [35] = { ["initiatorMissionID"] = "281", ["initiator_coalition"] = 2, ["initiator_object_id"] = 16778496, ["initiator_unit_type"] = "KC135MPRS", ["initiator_ws_type1"] = 1, ["t"] = 391.4, ["type"] = "crash", }, [36] = { ["initiatorMissionID"] = "0", ["initiator_coalition"] = 2, ["initiator_object_id"] = 16794880, ["initiator_unit_type"] = "", ["initiator_ws_type1"] = 1, ["t"] = 404.16, ["type"] = "pilot landing", }, [37] = { ["initiatorMissionID"] = "1", ["initiatorPilotName"] = "Reflected", ["initiator_coalition"] = 2, ["initiator_object_id"] = 16780544, ["initiator_unit_type"] = "F-14B", ["initiator_ws_type1"] = 1, ["t"] = 419.9, ["type"] = "land", }, [38] = { ["initiatorMissionID"] = "0", ["initiator_coalition"] = 2, ["initiator_object_id"] = 16794112, ["initiator_unit_type"] = "", ["initiator_ws_type1"] = 1, ["t"] = 433.12, ["type"] = "pilot landing", }, [39] = { ["comment"] = "winner: , msg: ", ["t"] = 437.255, ["type"] = "mission end", }, 1
Reflected Posted February 1, 2023 Posted February 1, 2023 Many thanks for the heads up! He never did that during testing, but I'm not surprised the AI can always find new ways to mess things up. I mean why would he attack a tanker 30 miles away, when he's in a knife fight with a Tomcat? Anyhow, I updated missions 6, 7 and 8 and made everyone else but the players invisible to the AI. I'll submit it to ED for the next update. 1 Facebook Instagram YouTube Discord
Jayhawk1971 Posted February 1, 2023 Author Posted February 1, 2023 vor 11 Stunden schrieb Reflected: He never did that during testing, but I'm not surprised the AI can always find new ways to mess things up. I mean why would he attack a tanker 30 miles away, when he's in a knife fight with a Tomcat? Maybe he considered the KC to be the bigger threat (me being a lowly nugget)? Too bad I didn't have Tacview enabled (performance reasons), I would have liked to watch what happened there. My best guess would be that when he launched at me, he was also facing the direction the tanker was in (when I came around from my turn I saw both Paco and the AIM-9 that had missed me in front of and flying away from me). Maybe the long range of the AWG-9 (as opposed to, say, a Viper's radar) made him pick up the tanker, and since I was behind him, he "forgot" about me? 1
Reflected Posted February 1, 2023 Posted February 1, 2023 Yeah maybe. It’s a good example of what kimd of safeguards have to be implemented in missions to make sure thr ai doesn’t decide to misbehave - too bad I didn’t think of this one, but it never happened before. Thanks again Facebook Instagram YouTube Discord
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