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Please feel free to ignore/answer as many or as few as you like.

1) Is 2.8 still cursed? There seems to be great things on the horizon (multithreading woooop!) so if yes it’s only temporary. It takes me at least 6 hours to D/L an update so I’m taking no risks. 

2) Talking of multithreading, I’m using a spare pc as a dedicated server to improve cpu frame times. Is this likely to be giving me similar performance as MT will?

3) Anyone else a little worried that the boost from MT will get gobbled up by new features? (eg ai not being able to see through clouds.)

4) OpenXR turbo mode, I can’t find how to turn this on. Can’t see any option for it on the F2 menu in game. Is it a recent addition? Should I have it on?

Thank you in advance. 🙂

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1. Mine is running better than ever for now (touch wood) it's like I remember 2.7. Feels very smooth though I haven't tried it in too many different missions. But in 2.8 on almost any mission it just wasn't fluid when my AC/Heli was swinging quickly around. Didn't regret updating anyway, but like you I was very hesitant!

2. I‘d guess no! As with this community if something like that worked, everyone would be doing it!

3.Yes. Everyone(well we VR users) worries about that! I've also made that post. Half asking, half begging!

 

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20 minutes ago, Wolf8312 said:

. Don't turn it on. Its crashing the game apparently

No this was fixed in OpenXR Toolkit 1.2.4.

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9 minutes ago, mbucchia said:

No this was fixed in OpenXR Toolkit 1.2.4.

Ah... then I stand corrected.

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Thanks @Wolf8312 much appreciated 🙂 I’m proper excited about MT, but I can’t make my mind up about updating. I get so little time to fly as it is and updating is essentially no flying for a week.

If you are playing something like Liberation or DCE I highly recommend a dedicated server, but multithreading is the best news I’ve heard in many a year. 

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Terrain shadows caused a big hit initially because the soft edges were applied to the flat shadows as well. Since the last hotfix the flat shadows are hard edged again and much less intensive (cost me about 1-2ms).

There is a general reduction in performance due to the new lighting engine but it's not that big once you factor out the terrain shadows. The clear canopy mod by Taz can help with the slightly over fine canopy reflections and shadows of they're not to your taste (as well as saving a bit of performance).

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Nice one @edmuss thank you. I’ve only turned on terrain shadows since I got a 4090, I’d be sad to see them go so soon. Looking forward to seeing the new lighting though. 😁

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4090 should be able to run full terrain shadows without too much hassle anyway.

I'm currently getting between 9 and 15ms GPU with my 3080ti with a little help from upscaling.

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2.8 = mixed emotions.

Looks great but GPU frame times up by 2-3 ms. I was happy with how it looked before, but progress has a price I suppose. Still, the future is bright. 

11 hours ago, edmuss said:

4090 should be able to run full terrain shadows without too much hassle anyway.

I'm currently getting between 9 and 15ms GPU with my 3080ti with a little help from upscaling.

Thanks edmuss, I can’t go back to upscaling though. I’ve been spoilt! It’s all good though, I’ll muddle on… 😉

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A couple more questions if nobody minds? *feigning deafness* Great! 😉

A post on Reddit claims High (cockpit) shadows are less demanding than Low in 2.8. Is this true? 

Im having some tracking issues with my G2 on my new computer. Things like looking down at my left/right consoles and when I look back up at the HUD my head position is now up and to the left (or right). I’ve reset the tracking data multiple times but it still happens despite it never being an issue on my old pc.

I found Turbo mode, my Toolkit was out of date it seems, but turns out it’s not for me.

Does anyone else find themselves procrastinating about what to fly more than actually flying? I actually miss the days when it was the Hornet or nothing (for multi role). Damn my brain! 

 

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Can't comment on the cockpit shadows, I'll see if I can get any correlation but I think the difference in performance is likely not massive.

Tracking issues on the G2 in a particular area is normally due to a lack of things for it to track. Have you got the same physical arrangement of things in the area that it struggles to track? Tidying up is bad😁

Turbo has been around since November, it has situational benefits but no real world downsides that I've seen reported. With it off, keep an eye on you GPU frametime in comparison to your FPS; if you see a disparage between the two (FPS being lower than your frametime says it should be) then turbo would be recovering those lost FPS.

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On 2/4/2023 at 6:22 PM, edmuss said:

Can't comment on the cockpit shadows, I'll see if I can get any correlation but I think the difference in performance is likely not massive.

I should just test this stuff but I get far far more time to think about it than actually do it. Probably not the case anymore or I’d see it mentioned more here. 
 

On 2/4/2023 at 6:22 PM, edmuss said:

Tracking issues on the G2 in a particular area is normally due to a lack of things for it to track. Have you got the same physical arrangement of things in the area that it struggles to track? Tidying up is bad

The tracking thing I can’t explain, nothing has really changed. And yeah my desk is suitably filthy, “tidying is bad” is deffo a movement I could get behind. 😁

Doesn’t Turbo mode shut off MR? Though I’ve had a bit more of a play around with it and the fact you can turn it on and off in game is great. 

Apart from the tracking issues I’m pretty pleased with the state of things. I’m sure we’ll get the frames we lost in 2.8 back once MT arrives.

 

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