JudgementalRooster Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 When you're going to land in such weather then ILS are really beneficial for this scenario. Many airfields are missing it.
Northstar98 Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) Unless the ILS is not working for whatever reason, the main reason certain airfields don't feature ILS is because they aren't ILS equipped in real life. In which case nothing is really wrong. What would be nice to have are ATC improvements that support PAR approaches and/or for there to be NAVAIDs present as ground units that can be placed in the mission editor (right now we only have TACAN and DF). For ILS that could be an AN/TPN-22 for instance. Edited March 19, 2023 by Northstar98 4 Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
upyr1 Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 I would love to have an option to set up ils, tacan and other nav systems that a field might lack in real life
buur Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 vor einer Stunde schrieb Northstar98: (right now we only have TACAN and DF). I know TACAN but DF? Direction Finding? You mean simply adding a vehicle which send a radio signal?
Northstar98 Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 56 minutes ago, buur said: I know TACAN but DF? Direction Finding? You mean simply adding a vehicle which send a radio signal? Yep, those are the only 2 catered for by units. 1 1 Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
JudgementalRooster Posted March 19, 2023 Author Posted March 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Northstar98 said: Unless the ILS is not working for whatever reason, the main reason certain airfields don't feature ILS is because they aren't ILS equipped in real life. In which case nothing is really wrong. What would be nice to have is ATC improvements that support PAR approaches and/or for there to be NAVAIDS as ground units that can be placed in the mission editor (right now we only have TACAN and DF). For ILS that could be an AN/TPN-22 for instance. There is one issue I see with such ground unit; they won't be placed on runway but adjacent to runway. So the aircraft may end up lining to the unit instead of runway during final approach The other approach would be an option in mission editor; ILS as in real life or ILS as in "simulation life". In simulation approach, ILS is available to all runways in all directions but enable only for certain direction depending upon weather condition. 1
Northstar98 Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, JudgementalRooster said: There is one issue I see with such ground unit; they won't be placed on runway but adjacent to runway. So the aircraft may end up lining to the unit instead of runway during final approach Not necessarily - PRMG ILS for instance have separate localiser and glide slope antennas (like conventional ILS), the localiser can be placed on the same axis as the runway: But even for BLUFOR systems, I can't think of a reason why an ILS localiser and glideslope antennas (and every other NAVAID for that matter) can't be made into units that can be placed by the mission editor. And even so TACAN approaches (which may be even further from the longitudinal axis of the runway) are valid approaches, as ostensibly are approaches using things like the AN/TPN-22 (which also has a PAR mode, which ATC should support, but unfortunately doesn't in DCS - despite having a reasonably high quality RSP-7 mobile PAR vehicle). Edited March 19, 2023 by Northstar98 1 Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
buur Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 vor 2 Stunden schrieb Northstar98: But even for BLUFOR systems, I can't think of a reason why an ILS localiser and glideslope antennas (and every other NAVAID for that matter) can't be made into units that can be placed by the mission editor. Fully agree. It was possible with TACAN. Now you can even mod each land vehicle to a TACAN beacon. For ships you can also add ICLS. Why not to land vehicles? Or ILS. If you look into the lua files these are three lines of code. I also can not understand why ED is not willing to help their customers. These are low hanging fruits which give a lot of game play to the users. But if you check this forum you will find request for beacons over decades. 1
Northstar98 Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 25 minutes ago, buur said: But if you check this forum you will find request for beacons over decades. Yep, here's one I made ~half a decade ago 1 1 Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
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