Realistic Joystick

[NavyAce]

Hello,

       I have tried to get answers to this questions in several other places without any luck, so I'm hoping someone here can bail me out. I am a retired American eagle Embraer captain who has had a long time love of 1930s and 40s miolitary aviation. I have gotten many programs for the various libraries of my flight sims (DCS, Il-46, FSX, B-17 the Mighty Eighth among others) to virtually fly the airplanes I will never be able to fly for real. One thing I must hav in this endeavor is realism. That's why I have all of the American and British Pilot's Manuals so I can fly "by the book," which in my opinion is something that DCS does better than anyone. However. in all of these simulations one facet of realism is consistently missing. You cannot fly a real WWII fighter with your wrist and a stick less than a foot tall. I have been fortunate enough to log over 20 hours in an SNJ and I can tell you from experience that this can be real work, especially in aerobatics, where the stick throw is very large (not just a few inches) and has to use arm and shoulder muscles that don't come into play with a standard joystick, and can be quite tiring if done for any length of time. I have heard of joysticks with supposed feedback to make the roll and pitch axes more realistic in control heaviness, but this doesn't address the stick throw aspect. Is there anyplace that sells a realistic stick of 2-2.5 feet in length with a realistic trigger and rubber grip, and can be plugged into a PC with a USB cord? If there is can it be installed with a simple plug in or autoload? And where could I find a product like this? Along the same lines, I find flying my WWII B-17. B-29, B-25, Lancaster, B-26 etc. with a Cessna yoke also not very realistic, especvially with those of the Boeing family being very distinctive in shape and design. Is tere any where I could purchase yokes that are more like those of WWII? Thank you to everyone who responds.

 

[BitMaster]

You are aware of the force from a 2.5 foot long lever where you put in all that you can to dodge those bullets ?

If there is such a stick it must have a very large base, greater than the lever, and best if somehow bolted/clamped/glued to something even bigger and more massiv.

I know what you mean but it is very unique and the forces you want to engage just make it somewhat "complicated" unless you proivide a clever & secure mounting method ( like in a steel mockup cockpit ).

Good luck

[Dragon1-1]

Look up OpenHornet, they've designed a beast of a stick that would probably do what you'd like, complete with realistic forces. Alternatively, try this: 

This is a DIY FFB joystick (unlike the OH stick, which is just springs and dampers) with a realistic length. Of course, in both cases you need a floor mount, and a solid one at that.

[Lt_Jaeger]

Take a look. 

That thing has already some decent throw, paired with a 20cm extension it comes close to what you looking for. 

https://discord.gg/Vm7s6qFx

[propeler]

Full throw, FFB, realistic forces up  to 12Kg force on stick.

[NavyAce]

Hello Again,

       I just got some more information that I want to share. I have been told that the Warthog joystick comes with extensions of 80mm (app 3.2 inches) 100 mm (app 4 inches) and 120 mm (app 4.8 inches) along with an extension cable. This will create extra length and therefore stick throw. I don't know if multiple extensions can be screwed together to create even more length. Anyway, I'm looking into this as an option.