Mission: Defeating the Moskva with F16C

[_Defi]

 

I have created this mission to try and attack the Cruiser 1164 Moskva. Is it possible to defeat the Moskva with F16C ?

It seems i am unable to even get close to it. Harm Missiles wont work on the SAM launchers.  Does anyone find a way to do it?

Defeat_Moskva.miz

[Terzi]

F-16 is not really suited for naval ops although some countries use harpoon missiles on F-16. I think its futile unless you have unlimited weapons and invulnerability on

[_Defi]

2 hours ago, Terzi said:

F-16 is not really suited for naval ops although some countries use harpoon missiles on F-16. I think its futile unless you have unlimited weapons and invulnerability on

yes i noticed this. i am new to building in mission editor. i thought the SA10 rockets it shoots one would be able to take out the launcher with HARM missiles. But i tried they dont show up on the HARM missile WPN display. And when you approach the ship you not only get one SAM launched you get 3 or more SA10 launched at you. Haha.

Maybe if one adds more ship support to attack the Moskva one can disable the launchers somehow and then bomb the ship with Cluster amunition.

[Terzi]

Worst is Piotr Veliky nothing can kill that ship as far as I know.

[Lace]

I had an attack on the Moskva's sister ship the Marshall Ustinov in one of my Nordkapp missions.  The only way I could write in any chance of success was to have the vessel heavily depleted of ammunition, and empty of SA-N-6 missiles (plausible after several days of hostilities).  Even then I had an AI 4-ship of F-16As armed with Penguin ASMs, and the player flight 4-ship with AGM-65Gs to simulate more Penguins.

Your chances against a fully operational Slava Class Cruiser are slim to none, since our Viper lacks the ability to carry Harpoon, and you would need a significant number to overwhelm their defences.  Perhaps if you can get it in port, using terrain masking and a lofting attack with some GBU-31s, you might be able to kill it, but in open water, that's not happening.

C:MO is really good for testing different strategies for these kinds of attacks.  Most DCS players seem to seriously underestimate the survivability of modern warships.  They are highly sophisticated ships capable of resisting multiple simultaneous attacks.  Since Slavas carry 64 SA-N-6 missiles, plus CIWS, you have to consider that your ASMs will also be shot down, Any serious attack will require you to deplete the long range missiles before you launch your ASMs, or go in with >64 missiles, which is a significant strike package (16 maxed-out Hornets)

Unless of course you are the actual Moskva.  Only IRL can the Russians lose their Black Sea Flagship, in a land war, against an opponent with no significant naval power.