Enforced Graphics settings for Multiplayer

[Maverick87Shaka]

On 4/10/2023 at 6:07 PM, Mr_Blastman said:

Apparently players are exploiting graphics settings to give them an extreme visibility edge on multiplayer servers:

This is a common problem for any multiplayer games, people act unfair
It's happening since ages, like foliage settings on Arma.

 

On 4/10/2023 at 6:07 PM, Mr_Blastman said:

It would be great if ED would add an option for server admins to enforce certain graphics settings to remedy this.

 

Edit:  Or improve general visibility overall so such settings aren't needed for some players to see targets well.  Neutral dots is one proposed solution if they were not visible through cockpits/clouds/sun.

Definitely it's not a solution, I'm sad but it's something out of your or anyone else control.
You enforce certain settings in DCS by multiplayer server? they will find a way to apply it with reshade or other tools, legit or not.

It's happening on all game, you can't do anything.



 

[Mr_Blastman]

28 minutes ago, SharpeXB said:

That middle ground would mean forcing the moving cloud shadows on for everyone. I think that’s probably too much of a performance hit especially for VR. 

That would be up to server administrators to decide.  If you are unable to play on an enforced server with VR, good thing there are other ones to choose from. 

 

With a Geforce 4090 you hardly have an issue with running VR with clouds on, as your specs advertise.

Edited April 12, 2023 by Mr_Blastman

[SharpeXB]

15 minutes ago, Mr_Blastman said:

With a Geforce 4090 you hardly have an issue with running VR with clouds on, as your specs advertise.

I don’t run VR but VR players with a 4090 still suffer

[Dangerzone]

The question has been asked numerous times and still ignored. "How far do we go with this?".  No wise designer starts something without first considering the cost. And the question is - what is the true cost to this in that how far does this need to go until people would be satisfied that things are 'fair' and there's no cheats involved? 

If this was serious - I would have thought that the conversation would have included answers to these questions raised, which has otherwise fallen on deaf ears, which is a convincing indication that this isn't really about being genuine about unfair advantages, but just wanting to win an argument. Otherwise these questions about how far do we need to go to ensure fair game play would have had serious consideration and responses instead of being mocked as excuses or otherwise just ignored. 

I personally think that this would be anti-beneficial, but I'm open to being proven wrong. So, my suggestion is this:

Before ED goes considering this too much may I suggest ED talks to the server owners they already have regular contact with out there to see their point of view first. (From what I've read I have doubts that these requests are even coming from invested contributors who would use this feature, but rather just players who think it's a good idea and want to argue a point, and wouldn't really get use - but I could be wrong). 

From a personal perspective - if this thing gets traction I think it'd actually be a slap in the face to many server operators and contributors. Especially after those waiting for significant times for the things we've asked for. (I have the recent announcement by rurounijones's in my head when considering this). His complying with ED's request to get a list - take the time to survey many and provide these requests that would benefit far more players, server hosters and campaign makers alike - which gained what appears to be unanimous support for his requests by script writers (including many with MOOSE) and many server owners seem to have fallen on deaf ears to a point where we're losing good contributors- this would just be adding insult to injury unless they were first approached to see where this fits on the list of priorities. If this feature is to be seriously considered by ED - please talk to those who are actually putting hundreds, if not thousands of hours into supporting DCS multiplayer and don't fall for the mistake of just greasing the loudest squeak on this board. There's no point implementing an option to use a function if it's not a real benefit. 

If I am proven wrong, and this is a serious consideration - I will be the first to admit I am wrong. 

[SharpeXB]

Given all the circumstances that would have to combine in order for this to actually occur, the number of times you’ve probably been shadow sniped in this game is likely to be zero. Or maybe equals the number of times you’ve inadvertently shadow sniped someone else. So it’s just not worth worrying about.