Gungho Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) People are starting to catch on. For some reason the aoa you can pull during pitch up max deflection is much lower than the pitch down. I propose a change in the control input sensitivities as Minhal has pointed out in my previous post. The FLCS feels awful compared to the hornet. In this first video you can see the f16 has extremely impossible pitch down spiraling movement. Ive done testing on my own and this is achieved by staying below 250 knots to avoid g-lock from negative gs, pulling power to idle and applying full pitch down and full aileron deflection(maybe a little rudder). My theory is By entering a low speed spiral the fcs thinks that full pitch down is to decrease aoa and break the stall and gives much more aoa control for pitch down movements in the f16. Im not sure if this is the way the developers have intended the f16 to be able to do these maneuvers. As it stands right now when im flying the f16 the poor aoa it can pull, poor sustained rate, ocoupled with the insane energy bleed has caused me to be put in a defensive position. My only option is to do this goofy negative g high aoa nose down maneuver to force an overshoot. My opinion is that the f16 is still underperforming and bleeding too much energy for exchange for below average instantaneous rate. I heard in bms theres a switch that allows override of the flcs? The f18 has this and the f15c just lets you pull insane amounts of aoa. Meanwhile the f16 is severely limited by its flcs. Edited April 13, 2023 by Gungho 4
Default774 Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 As far as I know the only way to override the FLCS limits is by using the manual pitch override (MPO) switch under the throttle. It gives manual elevator control at extremely slow speeds/deep stalls and completely disables the negative G limiter when held. The intended purpose of the switch is for recovery out of deep stalls, but it can also be used situationally to depart the aircraft when flying slower than 300kts indicated. This is a bit of a DCSism and obviously isn't a real thing IRL. 1
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 13, 2023 ED Team Posted April 13, 2023 Hi, our viper is correct based on the public data we have, if you have better public data please PM me. If you could also include track replays from your tests it would be appreciated thank you 2 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
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