Track replay, How do content providers work around this issue!?

[jvandemark]

Yes, this has been a problem forever, but how do guys like Growling Sidewinder & Long Shot actually work around the terrible dislocation/sync issues with track replay???? I'm hard pressed to believe they just record the actual live play. I've searched for a solution and the closest thing I can find is to have a separate sever to run DCS, and connect to it. I don't have a second high end server just sitting around to do this with. Anyone? help

If ED can't, or don't have the time to fix this why don't they open source just this piece of the code? I'd be willing to bet there are plenty of developers, that play this game, that would be more than willing to volunteer their time to fix it. I would. This issue is really frustrating.

Is this lua code? or compiled binary of some other language? anyone?

Thanks,

Joe

Edited April 23, 2023 by jvandemark

[silverdevil]

26 minutes ago, jvandemark said:

Yes, this has been a problem forever, but how do guys like Growling Sidewinder & Long Shot actually work around the terrible dislocation/sync issues with track replay???? I'm hard pressed to believe they just record the actual live play. I've searched for a solution and the closest thing I can find is to have a separate sever to run DCS, and connect to it. I don't have a second high end server just sitting around to do this with. Anyone? help

If ED can't, or don't have the time to fix this why don't they open source just this piece of the code? I'd be willing to bet there are plenty of developers, that play this game, that would be more than willing to volunteer their time to fix it. I would. This issue is really frustrating.

Is this lua code? or compiled binary of some other language? anyone?

Thanks,

Joe

 

producers of movies seen at the cinema or online do not film the movie all at once. they are separated into short scenes and then compiled into one movie. in DCS case, you must create short tracks, film the bits, and compile into the movie. there is not special code, smoke or mirrors. it is patience and perseverance.

[jvandemark]

you can't film a dogfight in short snippets (as seen on youtube channels like GS or LS, and others), you'd need to able to record it in some sort of track file so that you could use the camera to get different view for all the different events. I don,t buy that you could finesse a dogfight with thus said approach. If you did you'd have multiple dog fights parading one.

Go look at a dogfight on Growling Sidewinder's channel and tell me that was done in snippets of different dogfights

 

Edited April 23, 2023 by jvandemark

[silverdevil]

1 hour ago, jvandemark said:

you can't film a dogfight in short snippets (as seen on youtube channels like GS or LS, and others), you'd need to able to record it in some sort of track file so that you could use the camera to get different view for all the different events. I don,t buy that you could finesse a dogfight with thus said approach. If you did you'd have multiple dog fights parading one.

Go look at a dogfight on Growling Sidewinder's channel and tell me that was done in snippets of different dogfights

 

 

ok good luck clear skies.

[jvandemark]

didn't even look did ya :smh:

If you're filming top gun, sure that's how it would be done. But that's not what I was asking about

Edited April 23, 2023 by jvandemark

[Japo32]

your replay will be corrupt. BUT NOT the ones from others.

I mean. If you are in a multiplayer server. Fly a mission and repeat your replay file, there is a good chance your plane will crash. If you ask another user, to give you his replay file, you will see with a good percent of possibilities that your flight was the same it was in real time. 

Why is this? because the rest of planes you record in your replay file are set in coordinates system. Your plane is recorded the mouse motion and what you head moves. So other player file will consider your plane as AI plane and record as it was. 

The best way to do it alone? create a server and connect yourself to your server. Grab the server recording at the end, not your. And you will have more or less something good to play with.

Edited April 23, 2023 by Japo32

[jvandemark]

Japo32, Thank you! this is the sort of info I have been looking for. I will give it a shot, much appreciated.

[silverdevil]

On 4/23/2023 at 4:39 PM, jvandemark said:

didn't even look did ya :smh:

If you're filming top gun, sure that's how it would be done. But that's not what I was asking about

 

sorry. i did look and you did not approve of my answer. i was wishing you luck and i was only trying to help. i am glad you got a satisfactory answer. 

Edited April 29, 2023 by silverdevil

[Maverick_NL]

On 4/23/2023 at 10:47 PM, Japo32 said:

your replay will be corrupt. BUT NOT the ones from others.

I mean. If you are in a multiplayer server. Fly a mission and repeat your replay file, there is a good chance your plane will crash. If you ask another user, to give you his replay file, you will see with a good percent of possibilities that your flight was the same it was in real time. 

Why is this? because the rest of planes you record in your replay file are set in coordinates system. Your plane is recorded the mouse motion and what you head moves. So other player file will consider your plane as AI plane and record as it was. 

The best way to do it alone? create a server and connect yourself to your server. Grab the server recording at the end, not your. And you will have more or less something good to play with.

 

yes this is how i do it as well most of the time use the server track.

If i need footage of the cockpit or if i need to have a specific scene i play that scene only and then record it. what takes a lot of time as the track files are most of the time broken. 

Gr,

Maverick