AI turn and climb performance impossible for a human aircraft

[some1]

Here is a simple mission where the AI is set to make a high performance sustained level turn, and you can try to stay on his wing or at least match his performance for a short period. You can also edit the mission and try different speeds or altitudes.

Good luck. I checked several different aircraft and I haven't found a single one where it's possible.

-MiG-21 AI sustains level turn at 7G. User controlled MiG-21 in the same conditions bleeds airspeed above 5G.

-Mirage F1 AI will happily plow through the air at low speed, 26 degree AoA, until he runs out of fuel. Flaps not needed.

-MiG-15, Fw-190, Mossie, AI can sustain something between 0,5-1G more than the human in the same aircraft. That's 20-40% difference for WWII aircraft, a huge gap that makes dogfighting AI in DCS a very poor experience.

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zAIgload_Moss.miz zAIgload_Fw190.miz zAIgload_Mig15.miz zAIgload_Mig21.miz zAIgload_MirageF1.miz

Edited June 5, 2024 by some1

[SeaFoam342]

The AI Mirage F1 is absolutely ridiculous

[KoN]

I believe that the Ai has already been worked on , maybe a year ago , I know the WWII  airframes had some updates  . Maybe the last few patches did some thing. 

 

[some1]

A follow up on this topic, here's another set of missions this time testing AI climb performance. Again, you are on his wing, push the throttle full foward and try to keep up. The climb is not extreme, 25-40 degrees depending on the aircraft. It can be adjusted in waypoint options, aerobatics task.

From what I can see:

- AI doesn't slow down as quickly as the player

- AI can keep climbing and maintain level wings at speeds that cause the player to stall and fall down.

- AI doesn't overheat (Mosquito)

These are the first four aircraft I've tried and they all have the same issues. You're free to check other AI aircraft, I don't expect them to be any better.

zAIclimb_Mig15.miz zAIclimb_Mig21.miz zAIclimb_Mosq.miz zAIclimb_Su25.miz

[papaz]

Confirming the above issues.
Most apparent is the AI Mig-21Bis, out-rating F-18C Hornets, and out-sustaining F-16C Vipers, holding 7-8G without losing energy.
AI Mirage F-1 also has impossible low-speed performance.

[Fear-Factor]

This AI behavior is also present on AI helicopters.
A Mi-28 flown in my direction so ive tried to shoot it down.
Beside the fact that the Mi-28 got 5 (!!!) Vikhr hits he was still able to perform unhuman climbing rate where my Ka50-III was not able to compete.