DCS crashing itself, and more importantly, other software.

[ChaosRifle]

Yes, I have verified this still happens without mods installed, the log I am posting does have some active, but the exact same sequence of events happens without any mods. This is simply the most recent log I have. The mods here are UH60, C130, a small set of kneeboards pictures, an interior texture replacement (f18 Canadian interior by justduff), and lazyboot's livery unlocker. Again, I know, modded, scary. The issues started before I installed the mods, yes, all of them. Before anyone asks: Yes, this issue is entirely exclusive to DCS, and I have never had this issue with any other software/game running.

Sequence of events usually, but sometimes slightly varies, is:
1. Other software (some or multiple) will crash - this includes things like OBS Studio for streaming/recording, or browsers.
2. relaunching the software and continuing about your day may have it, or software that has yet to crash, will also crash.
3. Shortly after, DCS will crash, possibly taking other software with it (even if it has already crashed it previously).


To me, this sounds like a memory issue. Running several memory tests shows my memory is fine, and this only happens for DCS. My second guess, is that DCS is a memory pig, and that is the issue, except I have 64GB of ram, and task manager shows 20GB free at the time of failures, on a second screen. Further confusing the issue, the log claims it is out of memory by 22MB.. Despite having over 20GB free. Is DCS doing some dumb things and loading stuff into the page file with no regard for the perfectly good ram?????

dcs.log

[silverdevil]

6 hours ago, ChaosRifle said:

Yes, I have verified this still happens without mods installed, the log I am posting does have some active, but the exact same sequence of events happens without any mods. This is simply the most recent log I have. The mods here are UH60, C130, a small set of kneeboards pictures, an interior texture replacement (f18 Canadian interior by justduff), and lazyboot's livery unlocker. Again, I know, modded, scary. The issues started before I installed the mods, yes, all of them. Before anyone asks: Yes, this issue is entirely exclusive to DCS, and I have never had this issue with any other software/game running.

Sequence of events usually, but sometimes slightly varies, is:
1. Other software (some or multiple) will crash - this includes things like OBS Studio for streaming/recording, or browsers.
2. relaunching the software and continuing about your day may have it, or software that has yet to crash, will also crash.
3. Shortly after, DCS will crash, possibly taking other software with it (even if it has already crashed it previously).


To me, this sounds like a memory issue. Running several memory tests shows my memory is fine, and this only happens for DCS. My second guess, is that DCS is a memory pig, and that is the issue, except I have 64GB of ram, and task manager shows 20GB free at the time of failures, on a second screen. Further confusing the issue, the log claims it is out of memory by 22MB.. Despite having over 20GB free. Is DCS doing some dumb things and loading stuff into the page file with no regard for the perfectly good ram?????

dcs.log 561.58 kB · 7 downloads

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2023-06-06 04:40:26.479 ALERT   EDCORE (1780): Out of memory in ed_malloc for 22369808 bytes.
2023-06-06 04:40:26.500 INFO    EDCORE (1780): 0x00000000000276bb (edCore): ed::fatal_out_of_memory + 0x3B

DCS appears to agree with your guess on memory. i personally think 20 GB on your drive may not be enough. rule of thumb for windows happiness is more than 15%-20%. can you clear your drive or get another? you have plenty of RAM installed. is it possible you have bad RAM stick(s)?

[ChaosRifle]

Pretty certain it is not bad memory. I have tried swapping the kit out for another (though lower capacity and using a pagefile to compensate) with the same issue, and I have also run windows memory diagnostic, both several passes of quick checks, and a twopass of the extended, returning no faults, and no other software has this issue (on windows or linux, I duelboot). To confuse things further, I doubt it is a bad install of windows either, given that it was a fresh installation when I loaded up DCS as the fourth or fifth game installed and immediately had these issues.

Despite what the log file says, I see no reason this should be happening.

[104th_Money]

Have you done any overclocking recently? Changed or reset any settings in BIOS?

I built a new PC recently with an i7-12700k/Evga Nvidia 3090 FTW3 Ultra Gaming-slight overclock/64gb ram DDR-4-3600/1000watt psu/liquid cooling and had a slight overclock to it. I then decided to go with the i9-13900k processor. I reset bios but my mobo had some default settings that removed some power limits. It caused alot of crashing and what appeared to be memory or driver related issues.

I did alot of what you had tried as well but to no avail...in the midst of it all, there was a windows update and an Nvidia driver update that I had to suspect as well.

In the end, I figured out that due to the mobo default power limit removal, my CPU (the 13900k uses quite a bit more power)and GPU were both spiking up enough when loading DCS that the PSU could not handle it and caused crashes. I was getting different BSOD messages including for memory issues and nothing I was doing helped. Finally, after googling PSU spikes I realized that this was the issue. After turning back on power limits in BIOS, all issues were resolved immediately...

Hope this helps

Edited June 8, 2023 by 104th_Money