JF-17 Gunsight Behaviour (Sim and Reality)

[Tin_Rat]

So, using the gunsight in a dogfight. I've taken to dragging the cursor from some way off the tail to the head of the enemy. It seems the sight itself isn't as accurate as others? When I put the cursor on the plane at range the rounds don't hit where I'm aiming. Or is it my misuse? Also, is this accurate to the real plane?

[BigBorner]

There are range markers in the donut it i remember correct. Not that it helps to make it more usable. 
 

however, I personally came to peace with the fact that the jeffs gun is only for ground strafing and ending endless „return pre contact“ loops. 

[Tin_Rat]

My experience has been even if the enemy plane looks massive in the HUD because I'm that close, it's still off when I fire. I mean, if it's realistic that's fine. But it seems particularly off. 

Though I guess the other question is if the cannon has any deviation? Sometimes it feels like it's a combination of the gunsight being off, and the shells being very accurate with little or no spread.

[Napillo]

On 7/30/2023 at 12:25 PM, Tin_Rat said:

enemy plane looks massive in the HUD because I'm that close, it's still off when I fire

True, I tried to hunt down a SU-25T because I had no more missiles, and I could not get a single shot to hit when using the gunsight. IDK why it doesn't work, but it's frustrating.

[AeriaGloria]

On 7/30/2023 at 12:25 PM, Tin_Rat said:

My experience has been even if the enemy plane looks massive in the HUD because I'm that close, it's still off when I fire. I mean, if it's realistic that's fine. But it seems particularly off. 

Though I guess the other question is if the cannon has any deviation? Sometimes it feels like it's a combination of the gunsight being off, and the shells being very accurate with little or no spread.

It accounts for 2.5 degree downward deviation of gun. 

It is a gyro sight like in F-86 or Mirage, not a predictive sight. You need to fire after tracking the target continuously with pipper on target for 2-3 seconds, or fire 1x bullet TOF before the target enters the gun reticule in a snapshot,  becuase all gyro sights have 1x bullet TOF lag 

[Tin_Rat]

On 8/13/2023 at 7:23 AM, AeriaGloria said:

It is a gyro sight like in F-86 or Mirage, not a predictive sight.

Bit surprising given the release date, but even so it feels off to me? I spent quite a bit of time in the P-51 and MiG-21, and they should both be gyro sights too. But I found those far more accurate.

[AeriaGloria]

On 8/28/2023 at 10:55 PM, Tin_Rat said:

Bit surprising given the release date, but even so it feels off to me? I spent quite a bit of time in the P-51 and MiG-21, and they should both be gyro sights too. But I found those far more accurate.

It should be most similar to the Mirage 2000 site. I also think the 2.5 degree down angle helps make the experience painful as not only can you not pull much G, but anytime you roll towards a target the gun points the opposite direction……

[Pavlin_33]

I find it sometimes easier to ram someone than to put my piper on 'em.