beczl Posted March 21, 2009 Author Posted March 21, 2009 Thanks for the links Vekkinho. Well as I know the main differeces between the MF (Type 96) and the Bis (Type 75A, AP) airframe is the following: - engine - dorsal fuel tanks size - nosecone diameter, lenght and shape - tail - air duct chanel is different - front and main gears - Rsbn, Lazur - Flaps - cockpit washer fluid system - AoA sensor - Pylons - front canopy and so on... So in my point of view it'll very hard to make an MF from this Bis but doesn't impossible.
Vekkinho Posted March 21, 2009 Posted March 21, 2009 ^^^^^^ I was thinking of a MIG-21bis model with a Lancer skin... ...but if ED decides to turn Fishbeds into flyables in LOFC and/or DCS having all Fishbed types available would be great! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Vekkinho Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 (edited) Thanks for the links Vekkinho. Well as I know the main differeces between the MF (Type 96) and the Bis (Type 75A, AP) airframe is the following: - engine - dorsal fuel tanks size - nosecone diameter, lenght and shape - tail - air duct chanel is different - front and main gears - Rsbn, Lazur - Flaps - cockpit washer fluid system - AoA sensor - Pylons - front canopy and so on... So in my point of view it'll very hard to make an MF from this Bis but doesn't impossible. Here's the fact, SMT and ST (Type 50) were equipped with Tumanski R-13-300 but some of the SMT and ST planes had the same bis like dorsal fuel tank so the only way to tell between the two is by comparing their nose cone. With type 50 intake diameter was 880mm while MiG-21bis (Type-75) equipped with R-25-300 has 910mm diameter intake diameter. I'm saying that there's no huge external difference between MF, SMT, SM and bis so these details are important only in case of flyable AFM MiG-21 in LOFC/DCS. Just my 2 cents! Edited March 22, 2009 by Vekkinho [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Vekkinho Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 Check my Academy 1/48 bis in Croatian markings: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=615517&postcount=13 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
beczl Posted March 22, 2009 Author Posted March 22, 2009 (edited) Check my Academy 1/48 bis in Croatian markings: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=615517&postcount=13 I already saw that. :thumbup: Nice work. I used to make a lot of modells in the past too. You can check the MF - Bis main diffs: http://www.plasticwings.hu/21/21b.htm I'm saying that there's no huge external difference between MF, SMT, SM and bis so these details are important only in case of flyable AFM MiG-21 in LOFC/DCS. I see. If the details not important of course it would be possible to use the bis model with different textures. Edited March 22, 2009 by beczl
Vekkinho Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 This thread just got zombified: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=19640 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
beczl Posted March 22, 2009 Author Posted March 22, 2009 This thread just got zombified: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=19640 Hehe. :thumbup: I almost finished all of the main part construction. Remain the side flaps, flaps, ailerons, elevators, mainger parts, static dischargers, and so on... 2
Dany90 Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 Looks good, how many polygons? and correct me if i'm worg but thre is something strange about canopy shape:D And this will happen again and again and again...
Sir_Troooper Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 Looks good, how many polygons? and correct me if i'm worg but thre is something strange about canopy shape:D What's wrong with it? I think it looks perfect. :thumbup: A.K.A Csocso
shaggy Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 What's wrong with it? I think it looks perfect. :thumbup: I agree! Perfect! Intel Core i7-8700 3,20GHz - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 - 32Gb Ram - DCS on 500 GB SSD - Windows 10 - Thrusmaster Warthog - Thrustmaster TPR pedals - Track Ir 5 - Samsung Odyssey+ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.virtualredarrows.com
flanker1 Posted March 22, 2009 Posted March 22, 2009 amazing. . . amazing. . .amazing. . .a real beauty so far. . . fantastic work. . . will you find a way to make the mig-21 available also as an addon for dcs? regards
beczl Posted March 22, 2009 Author Posted March 22, 2009 Looks good, how many polygons? and correct me if i'm worg but thre is something strange about canopy shape:D 42k at the moment without some small parts (before optmization of course). What's wrong with canopy?
Dany90 Posted March 23, 2009 Posted March 23, 2009 good luck optimizing the model :) And this will happen again and again and again...
BS01_WinteR Posted March 23, 2009 Posted March 23, 2009 Good news,model is awensome!!! WinteR | Virtual Smokey Bandits | Virtual Czech MiG-15UTI Solo Display
Vekkinho Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 Cool, engine looks perfect... I hope You'll create a damage model of this plane in same detail! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
BS01_WinteR Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 Good work,man.:) WinteR | Virtual Smokey Bandits | Virtual Czech MiG-15UTI Solo Display
shaggy Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 Very Very good work! Intel Core i7-8700 3,20GHz - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 - 32Gb Ram - DCS on 500 GB SSD - Windows 10 - Thrusmaster Warthog - Thrustmaster TPR pedals - Track Ir 5 - Samsung Odyssey+ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.virtualredarrows.com
beczl Posted March 26, 2009 Author Posted March 26, 2009 Thanks guys. :thumbup: In my point of view the Mig-21 should be replaced the exist M-2000 modell in Lockon. Because it has an almost same structure, gear "touchdown" point and afterburner position too. The plane has a detailed engine, radar, gear and avionics bays, seat etc.. but the unique damage modell doesn't work without the new Mig-21 FM. :huh: In this case the plane seems to break/lost only on the wings and tails. Because only the the Su-25T or the Ka-50 have an unique damage model in LoFc/DCS. P.S.: All parts marked yellow will be animate. 1
flanker1 Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 beczl. great work. . . i love to see this beauty. . . will it be able to implement in dcs - as an ai plane?
beczl Posted March 26, 2009 Author Posted March 26, 2009 beczl. great work. . . i love to see this beauty. . . will it be able to implement in dcs - as an ai plane? In my opinion no chance to apply into it the DCS officially. But I'm sure it'll possible insert it as "non official" mod.
czarnyolek Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 In my opinion no chance to apply into it the DCS officially. But I'm sure it'll possible insert it as "non official" mod. I hope it will be released as download from Your website before an unofficial addon by ED :) This is long awaited MOD and as You know there was few attempts before but i dont think anyone got as far as You. Remember about templates for skins as this aircraft was used by so many countries it will be perfect object for skin artists. :thumbup:
Ulrich Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 In my opinion no chance to apply into it the DCS officially. But I'm sure it'll possible insert it as "non official" mod. All depends on your wish to cooperate with Coyote. Not approved by him = no chance to include 3D model officially.
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