freehand Posted November 1, 2023 Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) I just sold my QP because of something that I can not live with & gone back to a pervious headset I have owned. But for sure the QP was a great headset and easy on the system. Edited November 1, 2023 by freehand
TED Posted November 5, 2023 Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) I have had 4 vr headsets now, and all have been good in their own way. I went from rift s, to reverb g2, Pimax 8kx and now Pico 4. Surprisingly, certainly to me, is that the pico 4 is by far my favorite and also probably the cheapest, which sounds crazy to me. It’s such an outstandingly good value headset, with wonderful image quality from the screens. I find it very comfortable especially compared with the 8kx and the tracking has never once let me down. Running godlike settings and vdxr it’s just so damn good. I bought it initially out of curiosity really as I was tired of the Pimax comfort and pain in the ass setup with tracking base stations and persistent slight double vision due to overlapping. i was absolutely blown away by how well it works and didn’t even miss the fov of the 8kx. Edited November 5, 2023 by TED 4
freehand Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 18 hours ago, TED said: I have had 4 vr headsets now, and all have been good in their own way. I went from rift s, to reverb g2, Pimax 8kx and now Pico 4. Surprisingly, certainly to me, is that the pico 4 is by far my favorite and also probably the cheapest, which sounds crazy to me. It’s such an outstandingly good value headset, with wonderful image quality from the screens. I find it very comfortable especially compared with the 8kx and the tracking has never once let me down. Running godlike settings and vdxr it’s just so damn good. I bought it initially out of curiosity really as I was tired of the Pimax comfort and pain in the ass setup with tracking base stations and persistent slight double vision due to overlapping. i was absolutely blown away by how well it works and didn’t even miss the fov of the 8kx. I have just bagged a pico 4 thought I would give one whirl . 1
TED Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, freehand said: I have just bagged a pico 4 thought I would give one whirl . If u r not already, I'd definitely recommend using vdxr and not bother with streaming assistant. 1
Qcumber Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 3 hours ago, freehand said: I have just bagged a pico 4 thought I would give one whirl . As what TED says plus try using Quad Views Foveated rendering as this can give you quite a bit performance boost depending on your cpu-gpu combination. 1 PC specs: 9800x3d - rtx5080 FE - 64GB RAM 6000MHz - 2Tb NVME - (for posts before March 2025: 5800x3d - rtx 4070) - VR headsets Quest Pro (Jan 2024-present; Pico 4 March 2023 - March 2024; Rift s June 2020- present). Maps Afghanistan – Channel – Cold War Germany - Kola - Normandy 2 – Persian Gulf - Sinai - Syria - South Atlantic. Modules BF-109 - FW-190 A8 - F4U - F4E - F5 - F14 - F16 - F86 - I16 - Mig 15 - Mig 21 - Mosquito - P47 - P51 - Spitfire.
Willie Nelson Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 I've had Reverb G1, gave it to my dad, then got a Reverb Omnicept, pretty happy with them both. Just got my hands on a Crystal this evening with a 4090 and 14900. Comfort not awesome but I'll cope. Visual clarity and performance with Quad Views, freaking outstanding. i7700k OC to 4.8GHz with Noctua NH-U14S (fan) with AORUS RTX2080ti 11GB Waterforce. 32GDDR, Warthog HOTAS and Saitek rudders. HP Reverb.
MIghtymoo Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Qcumber said: As what TED says plus try using Quad Views Foveated rendering as this can give you quite a bit performance boost depending on your cpu-gpu combination. Be careful with the QuadViews on the Pico. When comparing foveated rendering in OXRTK with QuadViews, I saw a big increase in CPU frame time with QuadViews (from 6-7 ms to >10 ms in demo track). This is on identical replay tracks (Syria, low flying over city with Apache). My specs below. Edited November 6, 2023 by MIghtymoo 1 Intel i9 13900K | RTX4090 | 64 Gb DDR4 3600 CL18 | 2Tb PCIe4.0 | Varjo Aero | Pico 4 on WIFI6e | Virtual Desktop running VDXR
Qcumber Posted November 6, 2023 Posted November 6, 2023 3 hours ago, MIghtymoo said: Be careful with the QuadViews on the Pico. When comparing foveated rendering in OXRTK with QuadViews, I saw a big increase in CPU frame time with QuadViews (from 6-7 ms to >10 ms in demo track). This is on identical replay tracks (Syria, low flying over city with Apache). My specs below. Yes. I think this depends on your cpu-gpu combination. With a 4090 many people find that OXRTK FFR works better. But with a 4070 QVFR pushes a lot of work to my 5800x3d and gives a big performance increase. PC specs: 9800x3d - rtx5080 FE - 64GB RAM 6000MHz - 2Tb NVME - (for posts before March 2025: 5800x3d - rtx 4070) - VR headsets Quest Pro (Jan 2024-present; Pico 4 March 2023 - March 2024; Rift s June 2020- present). Maps Afghanistan – Channel – Cold War Germany - Kola - Normandy 2 – Persian Gulf - Sinai - Syria - South Atlantic. Modules BF-109 - FW-190 A8 - F4U - F4E - F5 - F14 - F16 - F86 - I16 - Mig 15 - Mig 21 - Mosquito - P47 - P51 - Spitfire.
freehand Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) I have just finished dialling in my pico what can I say very impressed the best part you can pause DCS have tweak and go back to DCS un pause until your happy. Coming from a QP & other headsets I am happy and the cost makes you feel all warm inside as bonus lol. Edited November 17, 2023 by freehand 1
Qcumber Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 7 hours ago, freehand said: Coming from a QP & other headsets I am happy and the cost makes you feel all warm inside as bonus lol. I really like the Pico 4 but have been thinking about getting a second hand Q pro. The main reason being eye tracking. What are you impressions on QP Vs Pico 4? I use QVFR in fixed mode for the Pico 4 and the QP would likely give me a performance boost over the Pico 4 as it has lower resolution I can get away with a narrower focus in QVFR. Have you done this sort of comparison? PC specs: 9800x3d - rtx5080 FE - 64GB RAM 6000MHz - 2Tb NVME - (for posts before March 2025: 5800x3d - rtx 4070) - VR headsets Quest Pro (Jan 2024-present; Pico 4 March 2023 - March 2024; Rift s June 2020- present). Maps Afghanistan – Channel – Cold War Germany - Kola - Normandy 2 – Persian Gulf - Sinai - Syria - South Atlantic. Modules BF-109 - FW-190 A8 - F4U - F4E - F5 - F14 - F16 - F86 - I16 - Mig 15 - Mig 21 - Mosquito - P47 - P51 - Spitfire.
KoN Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) Pico Neo3 link This is my go to head set with display port cable amazing . https://www.picoxr.com/global/products/neo3-link I've had the Dell and Quest 2 and Pico 4 , headsets this is best for sit down flight sims and racing sims . Edited November 19, 2023 by KoN Gigabyte - X570UD ~ Ryzen - 5600X @ 4.7 - RTX-4070 SUPER - XPG 32:GB @ 3200 - VKB - Gunfighter 4 - STECs - Throttle - Crosswinds Rudders - Trackir 5 . I'm a dot . Pico Nero 3 link VR . @ 4k Win 11 Pro 64Bit . No longer Supporting DCS .
freehand Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 6 hours ago, Qcumber said: I really like the Pico 4 but have been thinking about getting a second hand Q pro. The main reason being eye tracking. What are you impressions on QP Vs Pico 4? I use QVFR in fixed mode for the Pico 4 and the QP would likely give me a performance boost over the Pico 4 as it has lower resolution I can get away with a narrower focus in QVFR. Have you done this sort of comparison? The good first: The QP has very nice picture quality and the QVFR is awesome big performance lift and I could not see any narrower focus it just works. Even thou the resolution is lower the picture quality makes up for it. The Not so good for me. At fist I thought the blacks was very good until some pointed out the brown halo effect around the edges lol and once you see it never forgotten, Even thou the resolution of the QP is not a problem compared to the pico sharpness its kind a crap lol. The lenses have edge to edge clarity true but when used looking at cockpit interments etc the binocular over lap is dreadful for ME. I would never go back to a QP just because of the overlap but if you find a bargain go for it one of the best underrated headset for DCS but not for ME. 4 hours ago, KoN said: Pico Neo3 link This is my go to head set with display port cable amazing . https://www.picoxr.com/global/products/neo3-link I've had the Dell and Quest2 headsets this is best for sit down flight sims and racing sims . I was and still very tempted to give one of them a try.
KoN Posted November 19, 2023 Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) On 11/17/2023 at 3:32 PM, freehand said: The good first: The QP has very nice picture quality and the QVFR is awesome big performance lift and I could not see any narrower focus it just works. Even thou the resolution is lower the picture quality makes up for it. The Not so good for me. At fist I thought the blacks was very good until some pointed out the brown halo effect around the edges lol and once you see it never forgotten, Even thou the resolution of the QP is not a problem compared to the pico sharpness its kind a crap lol. The lenses have edge to edge clarity true but when used looking at cockpit interments etc the binocular over lap is dreadful for ME. I would never go back to a QP just because of the overlap but if you find a bargain go for it one of the best underrated headset for DCS but not for ME. I was and still very tempted to give one of them a try. If you have Pico 4 , I would stay with that . Using the new virtual desktop is supposed to be really good . Edited November 19, 2023 by KoN 1 Gigabyte - X570UD ~ Ryzen - 5600X @ 4.7 - RTX-4070 SUPER - XPG 32:GB @ 3200 - VKB - Gunfighter 4 - STECs - Throttle - Crosswinds Rudders - Trackir 5 . I'm a dot . Pico Nero 3 link VR . @ 4k Win 11 Pro 64Bit . No longer Supporting DCS .
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