joojoo Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) Hey to all! I try steer with Apache. When I try to unlock the tail wheel, it steers very abruptly and I cannot stop it. When I try with steer lock it steers but again sometimes it steers very rapidly and I cannot taxi in a straight pattern. I have to mention that I don't use pedals. I use trimming button for steering. Any idea? Edited December 6, 2023 by joojoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruiner_ Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) You need to use rudder to counteract the forces from the tail rotor. When you lock the tail wheel again, it won't actually lock until you roll forwards with it straight ahead. Try unlocking the tail wheel before you pull any collective, counter that and slowly increase collective to see how much rudder you need. Edited December 6, 2023 by ruiner_ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbu1 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 You need pedal control for steering. If you don‘t have pedals, you might have a joystick with twistgrip you can assign pedal axes to? Also note that neutral pedal position, when the helo wouldn’t spin around, is not in centered position in the AH-64D, but with a bit right pedal applied. DCS MT : 2.9.4.53707 Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F(Preorder) - UH-60L(Mod) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - FC3 -Combined Arms - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan(Preorder) — Waiting for: OH-58D - BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod) - OH-6(Mod) - Kola - Australia - Iraq DCS-Client: 10900K, 64GB 3600, RTX3090, 500GB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 32GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro, TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + Throttle, VPforce Rhino FFB, Komodo Pedals with Dampers, VPC Rotorplus+CBkit+AH-64D Grip, NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s, TM 2*MFD‘s, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiki Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I think that's true for all helicopters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pii Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/6/2023 at 5:51 PM, corbu1 said: You need pedal control for steering. If you don‘t have pedals, you might have a joystick with twistgrip you can assign pedal axes to? Also note that neutral pedal position, when the helo wouldn’t spin around, is not in centered position in the AH-64D, but with a bit right pedal applied. Isn't it the left pedal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DD_Friar Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) On 12/7/2023 at 7:04 AM, admiki said: I think that's true for all helicopters? No, the Gazelle for example the blades spin the other way so right pedal is required. (and it is left pedal required for the Apache) Edited December 11, 2023 by DD_Friar Visit the Dangerdogz at www.dangerdogz.com. We are a group based on having fun (no command structure, no expectations of attendance, no formal skills required, that is not to say we can not get serious for special events, of which we have many). We play DCS and IL2 GBS. We have two groups one based in North America / Canada and one UK / Europe. Come check us out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbu1 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 I was not speaking of applying pedal on liftoff, which is left pedal input in AH-64 as a rotor counterclockwise rotating helo. I was speaking of neutral pedal position on the ground for steering as the OP asked. Neutral pedal position is right pedal a bit applied. Otherwise helo will start spinning on the ground when unlocking tailwheel and parking brake released. DCS MT : 2.9.4.53707 Modules: UH-1H - SA342 - KA-50 BS3 - MI-24P - MI-8MTV2 - AH-64D - CH-47F(Preorder) - UH-60L(Mod) - A-10CII - F-16C - F/A-18C - FC3 -Combined Arms - Supercarrier - NTTR - Normandy2.0 - Persian Gulf - Syria - SA - Sinai - Afghanistan(Preorder) — Waiting for: OH-58D - BO-105 - AH-1G/F(Mod) - OH-6(Mod) - Kola - Australia - Iraq DCS-Client: 10900K, 64GB 3600, RTX3090, 500GB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCS), VR VivePro2, PointCTRL, VaicomPro, Wacom Intuos S with VRK v2Beta DCS-DServer: 11600KF, 32GB 3600, GTX1080, 1TB M2 NVMe(win10), 2TB M2 NVMe(DCSDServer), DCS Olympus Simpit: NLR Flightsim Pro, TM Warthog Grip with 30cm Extension + Throttle, VPforce Rhino FFB, Komodo Pedals with Dampers, VPC Rotorplus+CBkit+AH-64D Grip, NLR HF8, Buttkicker (3*MiniConcert), TotalControls AH64D MPD‘s, TM 2*MFD‘s, Streamdecks (1*32,3*15,1*6), VPC CP#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiki Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 2 hours ago, DD_Friar said: No, the Gazelle for example the blades spin the other way so right pedal is required. (and it is left pedal required for the Apache) Missed the point. It's not about left/right pedal, but the central pedals position does not equate neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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