Kondor77 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Hey all, Spent a good amount of time last night testing on all the maps currently in game. If you try to HRM an airfield, it will come up as a featureless body of water (sometimes the hangars pop up - but the rest of the airfield complex will just be black, no runway lines, etc). Currently this is a bug on the following maps: Marianas Normandy Channel South Atlantic HRM currently works as it should on the following maps: Caucasus PG Syria Sinai Nevada Pretty easy to replicate, all testing was done offline in an empty mission on air start F15Es. Seems to be an issue with how these maps are built with how the A2G radar draws the picture. For example, I tried the broken maps with the F16 A2G radar (knowing full well it's limitations compared to the 15), but the airfields at least still showed up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman99 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Whilst not the exact same problem, AG radar issues are not just limited to the F-15E. I just took an EXP3 map of Tonopha in the Hornet, and it was crystal clear (as much as the F-18 gets anyway), try that at Anderson and it’s just a blurry, faded, shadow of an image. At least for the Marianas, it’s been like that since release. I’m actually surprised it’s not a more discussed issue, as it really needs to be solved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kondor77 Posted December 13, 2023 Author Share Posted December 13, 2023 58 minutes ago, norman99 said: Whilst not the exact same problem, AG radar issues are not just limited to the F-15E. I just took an EXP3 map of Tonopha in the Hornet, and it was crystal clear (as much as the F-18 gets anyway), try that at Anderson and it’s just a blurry, faded, shadow of an image. At least for the Marianas, it’s been like that since release. I’m actually surprised it’s not a more discussed issue, as it really needs to be solved. Good to know! It definitely is some sort of map mesh issue, which then depends on how individual modules have their A2G radar modeled. Hopefully a dev somewhere can chime in... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBorner Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Am 13.12.2023 um 17:14 schrieb Kondor77: Good to know! It definitely is some sort of map mesh issue, which then depends on how individual modules have their A2G radar modeled. Hopefully a dev somewhere can chime in... There is more afoot with the AG radar hence this: and, subsequently, this thread: I’m trying to single out the possible error source but it’s kind of hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kondor77 Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) Hi again, I had some time to revisit this and take screenshots this time. Simple air start in position to HRM the AB. Sinai Map (currently functional) Bir Hasanah Airfield Marianas Map (Currently FUBAR) Saipan nullnull As we can see, it's defining the entire airfield area as 'water'. Perfectly matching the F10 map in the 3rd picture. This to me looks to be a mesh issue with some maps, and how the A2G radar does its mapping. For example, here's the same issue on the South Atlantic Map for Mount Pleasant. South Atlantic Map (FUBAR) Mount Pleasant If you'd like me to attach the .miz files or .trks I can do so, but this is so easily reproduced that I didn't bother to save either. Edited December 21, 2023 by Kondor77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kercheiz Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Yes, it seems like the grass zones of the airport are tagged as runway ground, and this is how we compute the ground reflectivity. Will be investigated, but might be tricky to solve on the radar side, it would be easier to have ground type flagging more standard across maps 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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