Apple Vision Pro in stores in February

[freehand]

3 hours ago, MichaelJWP15 said:

Quite a long time ago now, but sci-fi sim games; Powerdrome, Subwar 2050, I-War/Independence War.. games sold in boxes with physical manuals, keyboard guides and maps we coded our own 3d engines back then, always wanted to do VR support but it wasn't commercially viable back then. 

I am old I remember Subwar was awesome looking never thought I would see one of the developers on here good old days for sure.

cheers Jay.

[MichaelJWP15]

2 hours ago, freehand said:

I am old I remember Subwar was awesome looking never thought I would see one of the developers on here good old days for sure.

cheers Jay.

Thanks, all my graphics code was in 80x86 machine code back then! I actually still get people asking me to do a remake of Subwar with modern tech. One day maybe, and this time I would certainly include VR support 

[BazzaLB]

On 1/26/2024 at 8:00 PM, MichaelJWP15 said:

Quite a long time ago now, but sci-fi sim games; Powerdrome, Subwar 2050, I-War/Independence War.. games sold in boxes with physical manuals, keyboard guides and maps we coded our own 3d engines back then, always wanted to do VR support but it wasn't commercially viable back then. 

Did you have anything to do with I-War 2: Edge of Chaos? That is by far my most treasured gaming memory of space sims. What a fantastic game that was back then. FFB on my trusty MSSWFFB2 (which I still have and use in DCS to this very day, well over 20 years later). Brilliant hybridised flight model. Even the soundtrack was sublime. I still play the soundtrack today. Great times.

Edited January 28, 2024 by BazzaLB

[MichaelJWP15]

8 hours ago, BazzaLB said:

Did you have anything to do with I-War 2: Edge of Chaos? That is by far my most treasured gaming memory of space sims. What a fantastic game that was back then. FFB on my trusty MSSWFFB2 (which I still have and use in DCS to this very day, well over 20 years later). Brilliant hybridised flight model. Even the soundtrack was sublime. I still play the soundtrack today. Great times.

Yes, indeed - and thanks, glad you liked it, IW2 was one of our last ones before I sold the studio. The team was large for us at about 15 people, and as AAA games were getting bigger and bigger, we found it harder to raise the necessary budgets, we had an MMO persistent universe IW3 in the design/prototype stages which would have been very like what EVE:online became, but couldn't get the green light unfortunately.

[VpR81]

On 1/26/2024 at 10:00 AM, MichaelJWP15 said:

games sold in boxes with physical manuals, keyboard guides and maps

Good old times, i miss them!

[Dogmanbird]

painful to watch

 

 

[MichaelJWP15]

Definitely painful but it's a useful service, knowing how easy it is to scratch the front. Also was surprised that inside is so amazingly tightly packed and you have to virtually destroy the case and outer fittings to get to the electronics! Even worse repairability than a MacBook or iPhone...

[winghunter]

From the reviews I watched to date:

Definitely a PRO device, not for the average consumer.

Display: the best by a long shot, retina resolution, perfect blacks, edge to edge, glare barely visible

Passthrough: best on market, but not retina resolution. Noticable quality drop compared to rendered content. Good enough to read your phone

FOV: More than Quest 2, less than Quest 3

Audio: much better then Quest 3

Apps: not much yet, its pretty useless without a macbook. But with a macbook it could become the ultimate home working setup. Though some software features are still missing to be the perfect monitor replacement.

Comfort: great with the right interface and three band head strap. You can actually do work in this headset, if the software was there. Watching movies is amazing.

 

So yeah, I'm giving it some more time until the software catches up with the hardware. But I may primarily purcahse it as a monitor replacement for work. And someone will figure out how to connect it to PC VR within the next 6 months.

Edited February 8, 2024 by winghunter

[SharpeXB]

25 minutes ago, winghunter said:

But with a macbook it could become the ultimate home working setup.

Trouble is most businesses and industries use Windows. Plus if you want a giant screen in your home office such a monitor is already very cheap. And it won’t mess up your hair

[winghunter]

Thank goodness I don't work in a Windows industry, developing on windows is still terrible. WSL is still wacky.

A giant monitor is neither portable nor looks good in your home. And you can't exactly work from the couch or the kitchen when you feel like it. Let alone places outside your home.

Edited February 8, 2024 by winghunter

[SharpeXB]

25 minutes ago, winghunter said:

A giant monitor is neither portable nor looks good in your home.

Well “looks good” is a matter of opinion. My wife thought it was crazy now she won’t use her MacBook and keeps using my PC maybe I need to get her an AVP

[Silver_]

I don't think the problem is the software, Apple will try to do everything possible to open up the market in the PC (windows) world as well. The problem will be paying what it is worth and it will not be a problem either because there will be people who will pay for it as happened in their day with the iPhone. Whether it becomes the best and is like a fashion (like iPhone) remains to be seen, the time will tell it. Here the previous aspects that I have mentioned come into play to make it this way or another.

Edited February 8, 2024 by Silver_

[winghunter]

I'm going by the numbers, not some individual's preference. Apple outsells other manufacturers in pretty much every hardware category they compete in. It's crazy unreasonable to bet against Apple.

So here's my prediction: The AV is going to take at least 70% market share.

Edited February 8, 2024 by winghunter